Zaid Hamid Fans: Dr Israr Supported Takmeel, ZHE Fans: Show Us The Proof

Zaid Hamid fans are making interesting statements on Facebook. They are trying to create a perception that Dr Israr’s views were against the press releases that Tanzeem issued against Zaid Hamid.

See Tanzeem’s press releases:

Zaid Hamid’s fans further claim that they knew about the real views of Dr Israr, because they went to meet him on this issue. The claims of Zaid Hamid fans follow:

Claim

Ibraheem Naeem @anas: For ur information, Tanzeem-e-islami’s official press releases are given by the Ameer of the tanzeeb, and the ameer wasnt Dr Israr, it was his son Aqib. Dr sahab’s views abt zaid sb is not portrayed in the press release. Keep tht in mind. We kno his views abt zaid sb becoz we went to him n asked him. He said he fully supported the takmeel-e-pakistan movement frm his heart. And he said whoever will come to him to ask abt zaid sb, he will tell him only good things abt zaid sb. But he said he cudnt officially say anything frm tanzeem’s platform becoz he was no longer the ameer, and if he did say anything without the ameer’s approval, it would go against his own rules of the tanzeem tht he had set.

Anyways, we dont have any proof to give to u in this regard, but we dont care becoz we kno the truth n thts wht matters to us. He was very loving to us. He was a great man. A man of great knowledge too.

Ibraheem Naeem further adds:

Ibraheem Naeem N btw, the ameer Aqib was double minded abt zaid sb. tht was the problem. Dr Israr’s other 2 sons were supportive of zaid sb too.

Refutation

One of the fans of Zaid Hamid Exposition has written a stunning and categorical refutation of these claims. The refutation follows below:

Umm Imaarah @ Ibraheem,

Tanzeem-e-islami’s official press releases are given by the Ameer of the tanzeeb, and the ameer wasnt Dr Israr, it was his son Aqib.

This is true, but being the Ameer/leader of the organisation all memebers of the organisation have given bayt to him by doing doing so, it means that they all endorse what the final official decision is . This being what has been written 2nd press release by the organisation .

http://www.box.net/shared/iazerc5qeu

Dr sahab’s views abt zaid sb is not portrayed in the press release.

This is not true, being the member of Tanzeem he would also follow the exact view of the press release. He is obligated to, as explained above

We kno his views abt zaid sb becoz we went to him n asked him. He said he fully supported the takmeel-epakistan movement frm his heart. And he said whoever will come to him to ask abt zaid sb, he will tell him only good things abt zaid sb. But he said he cudnt officially say anything frm tanzeem’s platform becoz he was no longer the ameer, and if he did say anything without the ameer’s approval, it would go against his own rules of the tanzeem tht he had set.

Unfortunatly, this means that YOU are publicly claiming here, on a public fora, that he was against the actual official stand of Tanzeem on the matter of Zaid Hamid . Therefore, your statement points towards, Dr Israr (ra) being, a official member of Tanzeem, was either a Munafiq ( which I highly doubt as there is no evidence by his apparent to prove this ) or that you are not telling the truth. So which is it Ibraheem ?

Anyways, we dont have any proof to give to u in this regard, but we dont care becoz we kno the truth n thts wht matters to us.

Well , it is very important you provide proof to your claim especially since you are advocating it on a public forum. especially a view of an individual who is unable to verify it. And most importantly you are attributing a stand which is completely contradictory to what his official stand was ( being a member of Tanzeem ) therefore confusing the matter in hand for others .

Furthermore, by writing what you have in a public domain you are actually influencing others, who are reading your post By providing such a contradictory views on the issue one can consider it as morally unethical, that is if you do not back your claim with solid proofs.

So you should care really . especially since you’ve written this in a public arena.

He was very loving to us. He was a great man. A man of great knowledge too.

Yes Alhamdulillah, he was. May Allaah (swt) increase his rank in The Hereafter and accept him in Jannatul Firdous…Ameen

He is an example to follow. A true Momin ( InshAllaah). Never minced his words ever and stood true to his beliefs till the end !!

This is a video on what he believed about Khatme Nabuwwat

Its clear there is no contracdiction from the above and that of the last press release from Tanzeem on what he stood for on the matter.

You also say N btw, the ameer Aqib was double minded abt zaid sb. tht was the problem. Dr Israr’s other 2 sons were supportive of zaid sb too.

Could you back this with solid proof also, since you are announcing this on a public fora too. Therefore lending information on a matter which would influence other people. I’m sure this can easily be arranged, if it is the truth.

One must understand, thie issue of Zaid Hamid is no casual matter. And by you making claims on other peoples behalf would require some concrete evidence from those who you have taken the liberty to write about and make a claim for. If not, then it would be advisable that you delete your comments instead !!

I hope you can understand the importance of what I have said. Because, as Muslims one wouldn’t want to be known as indulging in “Bhutaan”

Final Remark

Can anyone believe that Zaid Hamid wont bring forward the “real views” of Dr Israr Ahmed RA had their been these so-called “real views” ?

If there had been any statement by Dr Israr, which has even hinted that Yusuf was not a Kazab – Zaid Hamid would have been drumming it like Moulana Niazi’s statements and all of us would have been aware of those “real-views” of Dr Israr by now.

What sort of a double standard is this, that Zaid Hamid fans ask the people who are against Zaid Hamid to bring evidence and proof of whatever they say, but in defence of their own claims and statements they only have to say the following:

Anyways, we dont have any proof to give to u in this regard, but we dont care becoz we kno the truth n thts wht matters to us.

12 comments on “Zaid Hamid Fans: Dr Israr Supported Takmeel, ZHE Fans: Show Us The Proof

  1. codename steal DON says:

    well thats good unbiased view by ZHE, i appreciate this, nice to know that DR israr and his sons are in full support to zaid hamid

    • Fidaiye Rasool SAAW says:

      @codename steal DON Subhan Allah from where did you concluded that “Dr Israr’s sons are in full support to Zaid Hamid”

      Baishak Allah jise hidayat na dena chahe … use koi hidayat nahi de sakta.

  2. BLAZINGSWORD says:

    FARMAN-E-ELAHI ABOUT YUSUF KAZZAB & CO.

    خَتَمَ اللہُ عَلٰي قُلُوْبِہِمْ وَعَلٰي سَمْعِہِمْ۝۰ۭ وَعَلٰٓي اَبْصَارِہِمْ غِشَاوَۃٌ۝۰ۡوَّلَھُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيْمٌ۝۷ۧ [٢:٧]
    Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.

  3. Syed Hassan Asif says:

    He (Ibrahim Naeem) does not even know the correct name of Ameer of Tanzeem-e-Islami and is referring him as “Aqib”. Shame on him for making such tall claims. Ameer-e-Tanzeem is Hafiz Akif Saeed Sahib. Dr. Israr Sahib’s other sons are Arif Rasheed, Atif Waheed and Asif Hameed. Who is “Aqib”???

  4. adnan says:

    subhanAllah, it is said very well and we have learn from our Ulema Karam that Allah (SWT) give “Hidayat” & His “Deen” to those who sincerely request to Allah (SWT) by their words by their actions and by all means. Our creator, Allah (SWT) is very “Gayoor” and he don’t give Hidayat and His Deen to those who really don’t care for it.

    So, We all can see this example here. Just we can pray for them and Allah (SWT) will is above all.

  5. Aalya says:

    SubhanAllaah look at them . Instead of discussing Umm Imaraah’s point, they’ve deleted her post and have left Ibraheem’s . This is Batil behaviour .

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=113071792054173#!/photo.php?pid=166969&id=110522165643469&comments

  6. Moslim Pride says:

    @Ibraheem Naeem, Dr sahab’s views abt zaid sb is not portrayed in the press release.
    ——————————————————-
    Okay but Zaid Hamid wrote on his wall ” PRESS RELEASE: Dr Israr Ahmad” March 10 at 1:15pm

    ^Undoubtedly One of them is a liar!

  7. Abu Bilal says:

    Jazak Allah @ Umm-e-Imaarah.

    For details on Ameer Tanzeem-e-Islami supporting the views of Syed Hassan Asif (Comment #3), visit here:

    http://www.tanzeem.org/aboutus/ameer.asp

  8. Abu Bilal says:

    @Moslim Pride: Infact a “Lying Maestro” exposed many times and now again.

  9. yaldram says:

    My brothers and sisters, its not the matter of sealing there hearts, its the matter of comprehension of the issue. When most of the kids zaidaay kazzab’s own children age are his fans. What do you expect from them. Will they be able to comprehend what we are tackling with?

  10. Amy says:

    @Ibraheem Naeem, Dr sahab’s views abt zaid sb is not portrayed in the press release.
    ——————————————————-
    Okay but Zaid Hamid wrote on his wall ” PRESS RELEASE: Dr Israr Ahmad” March 10 at 1:15pm

    ^Undoubtedly One of them is a liar!

  11. Imran says:

    I am the member of Tnzeem e Islami. First of all I would correct Ibrahim’s mistake that tznzeem’s ameer is not Aqib, but rather his name is Hafiz Akif Saeed.
    I met Dr Israr (RA) almost three months ago in to ask his views about Zaid Hamid. Dr Israr Sb (RA) not only had the same views as the tanzeem’s official Stance against Zaid Hamid, But rather he was angry over Zaid Hamid when he was told that Zaid hamid is using his name as if he was supporting Zaid Hamid. Dr Israr Sb (RA) straight forwardly rejected such an impression.

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