Fatwa of Mufti Mufti Ebrahim Desai Dārul Iftā, Madrasah In῾āmiyyah South Africa on Zaid Hamid

Title
Now a days as you may know that, Zaid Zaman Hamid (who is the owner of Brass Tacks) are struggling for khilafa system in Pakistan.

Question
As salaam u alikum

Now a days as you may know that, Zaid Zaman Hamid (who is the owner of Brass Tacks) are struggling for khilafa system in Pakistan.

I came to know that he (Zaid Zaman Hamid ) is same person who is the follower of yousaf ali kazab (who claimed to be a propohet Muhammad, Nauzubillah).

Based on above sitaution what are precautions that Muslim umma should need to take, Sould we struggle for khilafa just by following a person like Zaid Zaman Hamid ? or what kind of advice which you could give to MUSLIM UMMA

I know this question is personally targeted some one (like Zaid Zaman Hamid), but you may also know that this is very important question for the whole young youth in Pakistan who wants islamic ways of life in Pakistan and now we all are looking towards our Ulama Karam (Muslim Scholars) in Pakistan that , how they respond to this fitna. May Allah guide us to the right path

Please please reply me as soon as possible so that i can also inform others about it who is just blindly following Zaid Zaman Hamid

Waiting for your reply

JazakAllah

Answer

In the name of Allāh, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Assalāmu ῾alaykum wa Rahmatullāhi Wabarakātuh

In the compilation of ahādīth a very large portion has been dedicated towards ابواب الفتن (Abwābul fitan) or كتاب الفتن (Kitābul fitan) where in the muhadithīn have narrated all those ahādīth which are related to the trials and tribulations. In these ahādith Nabi sallalāhu ῾alaihe wasallam has warned the ummah against all those events which will occur before Qiyāmah.

In كنزالعمال (Kanzul ῾ummāl) the most famous work of Allamah Ali Muttaqi rahimahullah, it has been narrated on the authority of Hazrat Abdullah ibn Mas῾ūd radiyallaho ῾anho,

“Be cautious of the company you join and how you obtain Ilm deen. Verily, towards the end of time the devils will disguise themselves into the form of men and they will say; “حدثنا ” and “ أخبرنا ” therefore when you adopt someone’s company then inquire about his name, his father’s name and his lineage; so that you may pursue him in his absence.”

(kanzul ῾ummāl vol.10, pg.214, mo’assisātur risālah ) [1]

In the light of above hadīth we understand that it is very important to identify the person we seek our legal advice/guidance from, whether he is a reliable ῾ālim or not? where did he attained his knowledge? who are his teachers? This is because anyone quoting “اخبرنا” and “حدثنا” does not automatically qualify him to be a reliable ῾ālim. As Abdullah ibn Mubārak rahimahullah said very beautifully;

“The entire deen is based on the chain of narrators, had it not been for the isnād then every person will narrates that; what he desires”.

(Muqaddimah muslim, vol.1, pg.12, Maktaba-e-thānvi Deoband) [2]

And Muhammad bin Sirīn rahimahullah has mentioned;

“Knowledge is the entire deen so beware who you obtain your deen from”.

(Muqaddimah muslim, vol.1, pg.11, Maktaba-e-thānvi Deoband) [3]

We have conducted a research on “Zaid Zaman Hamid” and we concluded that there is sufficient information about him on:
www.nazmay.com
http://smhumayun.blogspot.com/2009/06/my-meeting-with-maulana-saeed-ahmed.html

And Allāh Ta῾āla Knows Best
Wassalāmu ῾alaykum

Ml. A Khan,
Checked and Approved by:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Dārul Iftā, Madrasah In῾āmiyyah

[1] – عن ابن مسعود رضي الله عنه انظروا من تجالسون وعمن تأخذون دينكم فإن الشياطين يتصورون في آخر الزمان في صور الرجال فيقولون : حدثنا وأخبرنا وإذا جلستم إلى رجل فاسألوه عن اسمه وأبيه وعشيرته فتفقدونه إذا غاب. )كنزالعمال باب آفات العلم)

2 – قال امام مسلم رحمه الله حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ قُهْزَاذَ مِنْ أَهْلِ مَرْوَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَانَ بْنَ عُثْمَانَ يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ الْمُبَارَكِ يَقُول الْإِسْنَادُ مِنْ الدِّينِ وَلَوْلَا الْإِسْنَادُ لَقَالَ مَنْ شَاءَ مَا شَاءَ
( مقدمه مسلم شريف, باب الاسناد من الدين )

3- قال امام مسلم رحمه الله حَدَّثَنَا حَسَنُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ عَنْ أَيُّوبَ وَهِشَامٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدٍ وَحَدَّثَنَا فُضَيْلٌ عَنْ هِشَامٍ قَالَ وَحَدَّثَنَا مَخْلَدُ بْنُ حُسَيْنٍ عَنْ هِشَامٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِيرِينَ قَالَ إِنَّ هَذَا الْعِلْمَ دِينٌ فَانْظُرُوا عَمَّنْ تَأْخُذُونَ دِينَكُمْ
( مقدمه مسلم شريف, باب الاسناد من الدين )

Source: Ask Imam

32 comments on “Fatwa of Mufti Mufti Ebrahim Desai Dārul Iftā, Madrasah In῾āmiyyah South Africa on Zaid Hamid

  1. follower of yousaf ali kazab ????? i never knew he was following yousaf ali…

    defending somebody that he never claimed to be prophet…… does it mean u follow him? LOL it is funny 🙂

    Khirad ko gulami sey azaad ker
    jawano ko peeron ka ustaad ker

  2. Naveed says:

    @Tahir Karamat.
    defending somebody that he never claimed to be prophet…… does it mean u follow him?
    absolutely YES.

  3. Salman says:

    LOL @TAHIR KARAMAT ……..BHAI JIS KI AANKHON MIEN PARDAY PARAY HUE HOTAY HAIN …US KO KUCH NAZAR NAHI AATA

    KUCH DINON BAAD ZAID HAMID KAHEGA ….YOUUSF KAZZAB ( NAUZUBILLAH) NAHI THA …TO LIHAZA SAB KE SAB US KO NABI MAAN LO ….MERA KHAYAL HAI YEH SAARE ANDHAY, GOONGAY, BEHRAY …US KO BAAT MAAN LEIN GE!!

  4. khurram says:

    @Tahir Karamat

    you did not knw then it means you should keep your self updated.
    Zaid Hamid was the “SAHABI” of yousuf ali, as there is a post just 4 dayz back where the audio of Yousuf kazzab is available.
    Nd Yousuf Kazzab case was held in court, not among some peopel. and all the Scholars stand united with the decision of the court.
    A theif will never say hez a theif. you need witness for that, evidence, etc. Similarly Yousuf kazzab was caught with all the video tapes, his diary, and ofcourse his so called “CERTIFCATE” ….
    so if you defend a kazzab , then are you not saying that you dont believe him to be a kazzab and so you believe him to be a prophet? is that what you are stating and is that what is so funny that he is a not only “Munkar of khatam e nabwooat” but also “Gustakhee ee Rasool SAW”
    ZH called Yousuf kazzab as not only innocent, but also a great pious man. Guess you need to read the Case detailz again man… it would be a the bigest insult to the word Pious…

  5. Asad ullah says:

    My dear brothers, salam and peace on to you.

    1. ZH was never called ‘Sahabi’ of yousuf ali. (Please do not so clearly speak wrong). No one ever called him ‘sahabi’ of yousuf ali. If you want to know about ‘misali sahaba’ than please read the statement of Moulana Muhammad Abdussattar khan Niazy.

    2. Yousuf Ali didn’t make any claim of prophethood.

  6. adnan says:

    @ Tahir

    brother if u didn’t understand the Fatwa then u should ask it again rather understanding by your own and finding it funny.May Allah (SWT) forgive us that we find “Ullma Karams” Fatwa as something to laugh.

    The respect of “Ullma Karam” is very important thing in Islam and “Batil” knows it very well that’s why they are trying to make our own people against to our Ullma Kraam; so they can archive the evil what they want.

    Else, there are enough authentic material on the website as to understand the Zaid status, if he’s follower of Yousuf Kazab or not.Brother khurram already explains..

    May (SWT) guide us all. ameen

    baa Adab ba naseeb
    bay Adab bad naseeb

  7. Rashid Baig says:

    Am Yum Yum Yum @Tahir Karamat! “Follower of yousuf ali kazab????I never knew he was following yousuf ali… am yum yum am yum yum…

    There are so many ways you can judge some one.. to whom he’s following?

    According to
    “Be cautious of the company you join and how you obtain Ilm deen. Verily, towards the end of time the devils will disguise themselves into the form of men and they will say; “حدثنا ” and “ أخبرنا ” therefore when you adopt someone’s company then inquire about his name, his father’s name and his lineage; so that you may pursue him in his absence.”
    (kanzul ῾ummāl vol.10, pg.214, mo’assisātur risālah ) [1]

    1. So Zaid spent his most precious time of youth and maturity under Yusuf’s influence and get educated.
    2. Zaid hide him self after Yusuf’s death.
    3. Zaid changed his middle name to disguise people.
    4. Zaid always tried to kept silent about his past whenever asked, bfore this issue got HOT.
    5. Zaid always deviated from the questions posed on him related to his personality.
    6. Zaid always showed temper when the questions rose on him about his PAST.
    (SO SIMPLE DENIAL)

    According to
    “The entire deen is based on the chain of narrators, had it not been for the isnād then every person will narrate that; what he desires”.
    (Muqaddimah muslim, vol.1, pg.12, Maktaba-e-thānvi Deoband) [2]

    A). vis a vis whoever tried to create knew Fitna narrated deen according to his own desire to achieve his worldly GOALS.
    B). The chain of narration being used by ZAID HAMID is YUSUF (KAZAB)and YUSUF (KAZAB) Manipulated Allama Iqbal (rahmullah)and uses his poetry for what he was doing to justify. Same here ZAID HAMID learnt his IQBALIYAT lesson by YUSUF(KAZAB)

    According to
    “Knowledge is the entire deen so beware who you obtain your deen from”.
    (Muqaddimah muslim, vol.1, pg.11, Maktaba-e-thānvi Deoband) [3]
    1. So Adha teeter Adha Batair Zaid Hamid Sahib spent his early youth under the education of Maulana Modoodi.
    2 . ZAID HAMID spent his most valuable time after marriage with YUSUF (KAZAB) and believed him when he was absolutely mature.

    Another TIP

    If you see Yousuf and his face Zaid tried to make it like him.
    His beard is same….
    His Topi is same…..
    His starting words of any speech are same…
    His ending words are same…
    He write Muhammad (saw) name differently as YUSUF KAZAB used to write (Muhemmed)at the beginning of his own name.
    His words game is same…..
    His concept of wahdat-u-lWajood is same..
    His concept of incarnation of Prophet Muhammad is same…
    He (YUSUF) was a juggler of tongue so does he….
    YUSUF manipulated the pure ideology of Allama Iqbal (rahmullah) regarding ISLAM to attain his goal…
    ZAID HAMID is following on his path….,,……
    YUSUF attracted people in the name of Gawat-ul-Hind So does he…
    there are so many so many ways one can judge but not those whose eyes are close.

    The list is very long …………………………………………..
    Jazak Allah Khair

  8. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Asad Ullah

    Show me one Ulama statement that said, Yousuf Ali was not Kazzab and he didn’t claim prophethood. We don’t need your statements on Yousuf Ali. Back your comment with proof of scholars, not just mere statements.

    Failing to answer this will refute your point # 1.

  9. Salman Zafar says:

    BTW @ZHE team….

    can we get some local and national Pakistani fatwas too???

    I mean not just stuff from AMTKN,

    but like tahir ul qadri, dr israr….other people giving explicit statements regarding zaid….

    i mean if a fatwa can come in from south africa…via the net….

    then should not our own ulema be more active in producing statements on their views regarding zaid hamid….

    it is odd that you have statements from south africa…yet not enough material from our own Pakistan….i mean am expecting that EVERY aaalim should be raising his voice against zaid…look at the horrid things he is saying….. and that scam takmeel that he tried to pull…trying to gather 100 000 people at minar e pakistan for his napaak purpose….

    not that I am doubting your efforts….I just want ulema to be more active in this matter as well….they should be the frontline in confronting zaid hamid….

    it seems overall, ulema are to some degree reactive….people go to Mufti GSQ and ask him and he refutes zaid’s rubbish….people go to mufti naeem and he refutes…

    if we look at zaid’s tactics they are pro active and aggressive…if we see our ulema…they seem to be reacting to zaids moves …and even that sometimes only when people ask them about the matter in question…

    although i think they had a contribution in sabotaging that accursed “takmeel”

    but still….he is telling the lies and they are refuting them and telling the truth of the matter…

    perhaps they are not aware of the following that has developed around zaid…in which case they need to be informed by someone…so they can at least call a meeting of representatives of all maslaks(deobandi behrelvi etc etc) and take a united stance against him and that 58 minute video of lies he has produced…..

    they could produce a statement not only unified and about what he has said previously….but also a list of demands from media, government, youth etc….

    regarding what should be done with him….and what steps are incumbent on people to take ….such as media must not give him air time , interviews etc…

    students should boycott him and not go to his lectures….

    people or institutions with lecture halls should not allow him to have gatherings there….(like wake up lahore …wake up karachi etc etc)

    and have the statement broadcasted in a live press conference on channels like PTV or GEO or something…..and print the joint statement in major newspapers……they could come on TV talk shows and give their point of view explicitly……I mean some people still think zaid is a patriot and so on and so forth

    yet they need to know the REALITY of him…and not just by exposition websites…but by widespread very very public and highlighted fatwas by a collection of united renown Pakistani ulema….which have been publicized by media that is traditionally considered to be mainstream and trusted…(not that you guys arent trusted, but i think more people will know from GEO tv or PTV, than the number that know about this site)

    this way societally….it will be established that being linked to zaid or calling zaid to give a lecture is the equivalent of calling a corrupt villain like baal thakray or salman rushdie to give a patriotic lecture on Pakistan and Islam…..

    the idea is that at the very least….iss ko bilkul jar say hee ukhaar deeya jai….by everyone….and it be an acccepted thing to sideline him…and a TABOO to ever bring him in the public spotlight…except for condemnation……

  10. jamil baloch says:

    2tahir and asad ullah..
    brothers prove that the audio,yousuf’s diary and all the 24 witnneses were wrong…
    zaid is a lier..firstly he deniaid relation with yousuf,,,he said lies about jamia ashrafia,jamia banori town..and he lied against ghulam sarwar..
    zaid is a lier..now tahir don’t say u r not following zaid..if you were not following zaid u had accepted the judge,ment of all the big ulema..but you are a blind folower of zaid..and zaid is a blind follower of yousuf..!!
    may ALLAH guide you..!!

  11. anonymous person says:

    The fatwa was quite general. I think the Ulema of South Africa are not qualified to give Fatwa on Zaid Hamid in particular, in the sense, due to the “language barrier” and culture differences as well. Ulema of Pakistan or even India can understand this situation of fitnah better, because they understand each and every word of Zaid Hamid, they are aware of Pakistan’s culture and Some of them were even involved in the trial of Yousaf Kazab,thus they can give fatwa on Zaid Hamid more accurately.

    But the fatwa by Ulema from South Africa was quite educational nonetheless.

    Mashallah

    anonymous person

    • @anonymous person. Brother for your information the Ulema in South Africa are graduate of Pakistan and India. In South Africa, a student is first taught Arabic, and Urdu .. Arabic because most of the contemporary books are in Arabic and Urdu because most of the precious recent books on Islam are in Urdu.

      There are many many Dar Ul Uloom in England that have Ulema and Scholars who have graduated from Pakistan. The Dar Ul Uloom of South Africa and the Dar ul Ulooms in England are doing a great service for the Ummah specially in Europe. It is because muslims in europe were reluctant to send their children for education in Pakistan and India due to a lot of reasons.

      But due to establishment of madaris in England and South Africa wave after wave of muslim students from europe are going there to learn deen and later come back to their respective countries like Norway, France, Italy, Spain, Germany etc.

      The Dar ul Ulooms in England are recognized by the British Gov. and they dont just train a person and makes him an Alim, but at the end of the Alim course the person also passes the A level exams. The results in A level exams of Dar ul Uloom students outshine that of traditional British schools. And the fees that these Dar Ul Ulooms charge is also very nominal compared to traditional schools, so like they only take around 2000 Pounds per annum give and take.

      However, there are conditions in which students cant even afford this much fees. One particular case is that of newly muslim students. These are young boys who have accepted Islam due to the work of Ulema coming to Europe. However, there families have not accepted Islam. Now these boys wished to become an Alim as well. In many case there parents refuse to pay for their fees in a Dar ul Uloom. This is where Madrasa e Inamiyah South Africa comes into play.

      The Madrasa e Inamiya South Africa under Mufti Ebrahim Desai does not charge any fees from any student and neither does it charge for their accomodation or food expenses. Everything including books and stationary etc is provided to students free of cost. This way even students who can not afford, but want to become an Alim are becoming Alim.

      You have commented on the Fatwa from Dar Ul Uloom Inamiyah because you dont know about it. But just ask anyone who has spent a little time in Europe and you will find out about the reputation and status of this Dar ul Uloom. Regarding cultural and language barriers, brother almost all teachers at Madrassa Inamiyah have been trained in Pakistan.

      I hope I have answered your questions.

  12. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Anonymous Person

    The fatwa was more of an advice to seek the ‘credentials’ of the person from whom they opt to take their religion from and if you apply this to Zaid Hamid, you’ll end up finding the answer easily.

    “Knowledge is the entire deen so beware who you obtain your deen from”.

  13. Furqan says:

    Guidance for all from the Quran, some selected verses:

    Lo! Allah loveth not each arrogant boaster. (18) Be modest in thy bearing and subdue thy voice. Lo! the harshest of all voices is the voice of the ass. (19)
    (Al Luqman)

    Say: Shall We inform you who will be the greatest losers by their works? (103) Those whose effort goeth astray in the life of the world, and yet they reckon that they do good work. (104) Those are they who disbelieve in the revelations of their Lord and in the meeting with Him. Therefor their works are vain, and on the Day of Resurrection We assign no weight to them. (105) That is their reward: hell, because they disbelieved, and made a jest of Our revelations and Our messengers. (106)
    (Al Kahf)

    When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah’s messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the Hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely. (1) They make their faith a pretext so that they may turn (men) from the way of Allah. Verily evil is that which they are wont to do, (2) That is because they believed, then disbelieved, therefore their hearts are sealed so that they understand not. (3) And when thou seest them their figures please thee; and if they speak thou givest ear unto their speech. (They are) as though they were blocks of wood in striped cloaks. They deem every shout to be against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah confound them! How they are perverted! (4)
    (Al Munafiqoon)

  14. Asad ullah says:

    Dear Brother Abu Muhammad, Jamil Baloch, Anonymous:

    Salam and peace unto you.

    Allahuma Sal-e-wa-Salam ala Syyadina Nabiyana Habibana Mohammed.

    May Allah bless you and forgive me. Believe me I write the following only to give my statement/shahadah the way I see things. Please still have an open mind. And, I know you do. I read some very good comments from admin of this site. We need to remember the definition of a Muslim. People should be safe from his tongue and his actions. You and me are always very careful what we do with our feet, but often less careful what we do with our tongue.

    Someone said ‘some of the ulma were even involved in the trial of Yusuf..’. Actually, none of them from ulma present in the court – so they were not involved in the tiral – unless you mean media trial that was led by Khabarain and still people are making money by selling the books about false prophet. None of them spoke with Yousuf Ali before their research on the case. Some of them did not accept his islam and declared him Kafir and Murtad and wajib ul qatal based on principle, rather than based on case at hand where principle was not applicable. Isn’t it true?

    I wonder what was their scope and depth of research except perhaps ‘reading selected material presented to them most of it that was published in Khabarain’. Someone can say that many were rubber-stamping each other statements, someone can say that they did great deal of research and spoke with the accused before declaring him Murtad and Kaffir.

    There was one Aalim who write clearly that his statement is based on ‘ilm and theqeeq = knowledge and research’ and he wrote 4 pages. He wrote in support of Yusuf Ali. I have some other delated long letters in writing from some very respectable names. I will be happy to provide to you privately or publically. However, please keep in mind that purpose here is not to defend or honor someone. Beleive me it is not my purpose. What hurts me to see the campaign of kazib where some very very good people are getting involved innocently and destroying their akhirah. Please help each other seeing the truth.

    Just one small example, someone said about my comment: ‘but you are a blind folower of zaid..’ This is what I mean that people innocently making me follower when they have no knowledge and it is not true. Please everyone be a little careful using your hands and tongue. Don’t we remember the definition that who can be called kazzab? Perhaps, people like you and me who say without knowing and without tahqeeq.

    … will write more if you want to listen.

    Jizak Allah.

    May Allah forgive me and bless you.

    • Salam

      You said: Someone said ’some of the ulma were even involved in the trial of Yusuf..’. Actually, none of them from ulma present in the court – so they were not involved in the tiral

      Ans: This is nothing but copy-paste of Zaid Hamid’s words. He said that if Ulema were against him why none of them appeared as a witness against him in court. This is absolute rubbish. Nothing but rubbish. For your kind information only an eye-witness can testify against some one in court and none of the Ulema were an eye-witness of Yusuf Kazab’s blasphemy.

      This is so because Ulema are not the ones who could be trapped by such a blasphemer. It was people with weak aqeedah who fell for Yusuf Kazab’s tricks. So naturally Ulema couldnt appear before the court as an eye-witness.

      It would be beneficial both for you and for us if you could apply logic to what Zaid Hamid says.

      You said: unless you mean media trial that was led by Khabarain and still people are making money by selling the books about false prophet.

      Ans: For your kind information Takbeer and Ummat were as much on the fore front as was Khabarain. In fact it was Takbeer that broke this news. Zia Shahid admits this in his statement that when he read news about Yusuf Kazab in Takbeer and Ummat from Karachi, I assembled a special investigation team under Mian Ghaffar to investigate the matter.

      Takbeer and Ummat started publishing news on the basis of information provided to them via ex-mureeds of Yusuf Kazab.

      The people who published the books on Yusuf Kazab, never did it for money – and the fact of the matter is that some of them have to pay for the publishing costs from their own pockets. They considered this to be such an important matter – that they spent out of their own pockets to let the information be available to future generations.

      You said: None of them spoke with Yousuf Ali before their research on the case. Some of them did not accept his islam and declared him Kafir and Murtad and wajib ul qatal based on principle, rather than based on case at hand where principle was not applicable. Isn’t it true?

      Ans: Here’s a question for you. Did Hazrat Abu Bakr RA met with Museelma Kazab before declaring him a Kazab and Murtad ? Isnt this true ? So it means that Hazrat Abu Bakr RA has no knowledge of Islam and Shariah what so ever ? Is this what you are trying to imply.

      This is yet another piece that Zaid Hamid uttered and you are doing nothing but spitting it out without applying logic.

      Again for your kind information in order to give a verdict you dont have to necessarily meet a person. All you need is enough witnesses, who testify before you that person X has declared himself to be a Prophet. This is exactly what Hazrat Abu Bakr RA did. He inquired it from the ambassadors of Museelma Kazab and they testified that He has declared himself to be a Prophet. This is exactly what Ulema did, they inquired from a over a dozen eye-witnesses and all of these eye-witnesses testified that Yusuf Kazab has declared himself to be a prophet.

      Before you start to teach someone else Shariah principles, it would be better if you yourself read and gain some knowledge of the Shariah principle of Shahadat (Gawahi).

      You said: There was one Aalim who write clearly that his statement is based on ‘ilm and theqeeq = knowledge and research’ and he wrote 4 pages. He wrote in support of Yusuf Ali. I have some other delated long letters in writing from some very respectable names. I will be happy to provide to you privately or publically.

      Ans: It would be an immense service to the entire Ummah if you could bring forward these 4 pages, written by that Aalim. Why have you been sitting on them for so long ? Since how long have you been sitting on these 4 pages and other long letters in writing from some very respectable names.

      – Could you please mention those names.
      – Could you please publish these letters and that 4 pages of Fatwa by that Aalim.

      You said: However, please keep in mind that purpose here is not to defend or honor someone. Beleive me it is not my purpose.

      Ans: You said that you are not defending Yusuf Kazab or Zaid Hamid, but you have spent your entire column stating the following

      a) Only Khabrain reported on the event.
      b) The people who published the books on Yusuf Kazab did so to earn money.
      c) Ulema issued fatawa against Yusuf Kazab, without even meeting him and without doing any research/Tehqeeq.
      d) There is one Aalim, who lives somewhere on this earth who issued a 4 page Fatwa. He is the only Aalim who did Tehqeeq and the result of his Tehqeeq was that Yusuf Kazab didnt committed blasphemy.
      e) You have other long letters from well known Ulema that are in favor of Yusuf Kazab.

      My dear, if this is not favor then is favor a name of an African Elephant ?

      You said: What hurts me to see the campaign of kazib where some very very good people are getting involved innocently and destroying their akhirah. Please help each other seeing the truth.

      Ans: Dont be hurt on us, or on this campaign of Kazib that we have launched – we are responsible for whatever we are sending for Akhirat.

      You said: … will write more if you want to listen.

      Ans: Who has stopped you from writing. Why do you think are we here ? We are here not just to tell, but to listen to. The publication of all clarifications of Asif Shiraz is a testimony to this. We have even published the press release and press conference of Zaid Hamid on this site. Truth fears no trial.

      Why would we fear, something that you have to say. You are most welcome to say whatever you want to say.

      PS: I tried sending you an email on the email address you mentioned. However, I guess thats not a working email address since the email bounced back.

      However, if you want to send us the fatawa that you talked about in private, you can do so by sending an email to uncoveringzaidhamid@gmail.com

  15. syed sohaib roomi says:

    @Fidaiye Rasool SAAW
    MaashaAllah
    Jazaakumullah khayr

  16. Asad ullah says:

    Walikum Salam Bhai,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I am not copying anyone, but telling you the things the way I see them.

    >>I said: Someone said ’some of the ulma were even involved in the trial of Yusuf..’. Actually, none of them from ulma present in the court.

    Explanation: According to which law of PPCode a lower session court could delare a Muslim ‘kazzab’, ‘Kafir’ and ‘Murtad’? This should be done by Ulma-e-Karam and Sofiya-e-Karam as it was recommended by Ex. Minister Religious Affairs and Senator Moulana Muhammad Abdussattar Khan Niazy, because perhaps he was afraid that on day of Judgement Allah swt ask him that why Blasphemy laws were not made safe in Pakistan and they were blatantly midused. He mentions it in his statement.

    >>>unless you mean media trial that was led by Khabarain and still people are making money by selling the books about false prophet.

    Yes.. We all know this fact. I simply meant that Takbeer and Ummat initiated but campaign was led by Khabarain. Isn’t it true? About the books.. I am sorry I was wrong and I didn’t know that it was done for ajar-e-akhirah. I sincerely pray that Allah swt accept this effeort and give them the best ajar min al khair for their books in Akhira.

    >>>You said: None of them spoke with Yousuf Ali before their research on the case. Some of them did not accept his islam and declared him Kafir and Murtad and wajib ul qatal based on principle, rather than based on case at hand where principle was not applicable. Isn’t it true?

    Muslima Kazzab was a clear cut case of declaring his nabuwwat. So, Syyadina Abu Bakar siddique radi Allah o tala Unha did made a great decision. However, in the case of Yusuf Ali there was no claim of prophethood whatsoever. Isn’t it true?

    Can Ulma-e-Karam can give fatwa against a muslim for kufr without enquiring him, and meeting him, only hearing one side stories?

    Will write more inshaAllah.. if you allow me to.

    Please believe me..I am only writing so someone could correct me or get corrected. May Allah swt let us see haq they way it is, and let us comprehend batil the way it is.

    Fe Amman Allah

  17. Ali says:

    Great, keep up the good work of exposing this fitna Zaid.

  18. Qadir usman says:

    LOL @ African Elephant.

  19. Furqan says:

    @ Asad Ullah

    There is a lot of ” He heard that… “, “He said that…” “They said that..”

    Let me make it clear once and for all, I met Yusuf Kazzab at Zaid Zaman’s home in Afandi Colony, Rawalpindi, where he used to visit. Kazzab admitted to me that he is continuation of rasool allah (nauzobillah, nauzobillah). Zaid Zaman believed him because of a logic that Zaid Zaman gave himself, quoting some hadith that our Prophet(saaw) has once said “The shaytaan can never come in my form.” So if this man is making this claim it must be true!

    For those who still have doubts about Yusuf Kazzab and Zaid Zaman, search your hearts for love and sincerity to Allah and His Prophet saaw, and then compare it within your heart with the love and sincerity you have for ZH. Compare them both, which weighs more?

    Remember the doors of Tauba are never closed!

    One cannot even begin to have Iman if Allah and His Prophet(saaw) are not dearer to us than ourselves, our parents, our spouses, our children, our honor and our wealth.

    For us, muslims, role models are the Prophet Muhammad SAAW , the sahaba-e-karaam of Rasool Allah saaw. Namely Hazrat AbuBakr (RA) Hazrat Omar bin Khattab (RA) Hazrat Usman (RA) and Hazrat Ali (RA) and others.

    May Allah protect the Iman of all muslims, keep us firm in our faith and make us die as muslim and momin.

    may Allah forgive our mistakes, open and secret, have mercy on us be pleased with us and save us from the hell fire, ameen.

  20. Asad Ullah says:

    Salam Alykum WR WB.

    Hum sub ko youm ul Juma mubarak ho.

    I was hoping that I will get some subsequent questions, or corrections, on my last comment. However, there is nothing yet. I stand to be corrected – humbaly before you. If there are spelling mistakes in my email than please forgive me. May Allah swt give us the wisdom to see the truth beyond some minor mistakes. Please ignore tham graciouly yourself or question me so I could correct myself. I noticed that I wrote ‘unha’ rather than ‘unho’ with the name of Syyadina Abu Bakar Siddique Radi Allah tala unho.

    I have a question: What are the Sharia requirements (taqazay) of declaring a muslim Kaffir, Murtaz and as a result Wajib ul Qatal? What are the Shaira requirements of declaring a muslim a Kazzab?

    Wasalam WR..

    “O people, seek repentence from Allah, Verily, I seek repentence from Him a hundred times a day.” [Hadith-un-nabawwi. Muslim, the book of Al-Adkhar:42]

    “O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentence! (Tubatun Nasuha)” [AL-QURAN 66:8]

  21. Asad Ullah says:

    What is the most easiest way to save oneself from even fitna-e-Dajjal:

    There were 70,000 angels when Sura-e-Kahf was decended. Who will read this sura on day of Jumma, his/her heart will remain bright (munawaar) with light (Nur), and he will stay safe even from the fitna-e-Dajjal. One who read the first and last 10 ayyats of this Sura EVERYDAY than he/she will be Nur from head to toe.

  22. Asad Ullah says:

    Asalam Alykum Furqan bhai. Jizak Allah. Istighfir ullah taala min kul-e-zunmbin wa tuubay alihe. I am trying to make tuuba before Allah swt the best I can. Please save my akhirah and correct me. I am ready and open to accept Haaq, and denounce batil in very clear terms.

    Can we clearly frame the problem and cut it to the right size first – because there are a lot of people who are saying a lot of things without understand and which is not their level to say.

    For example: the question I asked earlier: 1) Do you think it is okay for a Lower Session Court to declare someone Kazzab, Kafir, Murtad and as a result wajib-ul-Qatal? What are the requirements of shariah to accept someone Islam? or to declare someone Kazzab, Kafir, Murtad and Wajib ul Qatal? Yes.. perhaps in the absence of an Islamic government it is the job of Ulma-e-Karam.

    Short question is that do you think by searching your heart that lower session court fulfill the requirements of Shariaah?

    Please bear with me, if you think that my question is irrelevant.

    I search my heart – really I do – pray salat ul juma and make nawafil, I cannot claim sincerity to Allah and His Beloved Last and Lasting prophet Muhammad Rasul Allah sal Allah o Alihay wasalam. I am a very weak Ubd and Ghulam of Syyadina Mulana, Habibana, Nabiyyana, Quidina, Murshadina Muhammad – infinite darood and salam unto Him. I find that Alhumdollilah I do have love and respect for Rasul Allah saaw much more than ZH.

    Alhumdollilah the doors of Tauba are never closed. I make Tauba and want to make it again and again. May Allah swt guide us to the right path and see us Haq as Haq and Batil as Batil.

    Can you kindly answer my simple question? A simple answer would be much appreciated. Jizak Allah.

    Fe Amman Allah

    “Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is worst of false tales.” [Al Bukhari: 6066]

  23. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Asad Ullah

    As for the questions that your asking, they have already been answered here.

    Refutation: Yusuf Kazab Can Not Be Called A Kazab Because He Was Not Punished By A Sharia Court
    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/2010/03/19/refutation-yusuf-kazab-can-not-be-called-a-kazab-because-he-was-not-punished-by-a-sharia-court/

    Also go through this
    United as “One Muslim Ummah” against Murtid Yusuf Kazzab and his followers
    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/2010/03/03/united-as-one-muslim-ummah-against-murtid-yusuf-kazzab-and-his-followers/

    The Case Against Zaid Hamid
    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/the-case-against-zaid-hamid/

    It is for you to bring an Aalim to us, who says that Yousuf was not a Kazzab. We still have to find one. May be you can help us on this.

    As for the rest of the sciences that your talking about the impediments of Takfeer. Though we can share here few books, but we suggest you visit an authentic scholar to your concerned queries as none of the bloggers here are authentic scholars. They are themselves student of religion. One should seek knowledge through appropriate means, and especially if it is religion of Allah, one should be more focused.

    At the same time, we suggest you to please go through the blog properly and the discussion that have already happened and thus to avoid repeated questions, which has already been answered.

    Hope this helps. Insha’Allah.

  24. khurram says:

    Salamz
    I read above someone asking about fatwa from Local People in Pakistan nd not form Abroad.
    nd he Quoted that we take fatwa of Dr Israr Ahmed etc.
    well Dr Israr has clearly given his press release in which he has even answered ASAD ULLAH about the Court issue.
    I dont have the link but i hope the exposition team has that link. the second press release will be sufficient.
    Another thing i would like to bring to light, is that Audio of Yousuf kazzabs are still on Youtube where he openly says that there are 100 “SAHABI”.
    And now i would ask Question to ASAD ULLAH .. would a theif ever say that hez a theif? unless he is honest enought, then the answer would be no. so we have to get eveidence and witness .
    In this age we can ofcourse obtain proof in the form of Video and Audio formate, and that is what happened in the Case of Yousuf Kazzab. He did say that he never claimed Prophet hood but all the witness and proofs went aganist that. even his personal diary played a role in his conviction.
    I appreciate that you want to open your mind and learn , but do check the facts , not just listen to someone and believe it.
    For instance , if you go logical,,, had Yousuf Kazzab been innocent,why was his case never reopen? why no one ever state that before ZH?
    You can read the complete case as well, you will find that Not only Yousuf was a KAZZAB but he lied about many other things, namely a great scholar, etc.

    SO do read the case and if you find some Questions, … if you are indeed open minded it will be a great help.

  25. Asad Ullah says:

    SalamAlykum Khurram, Peace upon you, Brother Khurram, Jizak Allah for your contribution and question.

    A thief should call himself a thief under oath, but if he lies, even than we should give him benefit of doubt. Particularly, when a person says that he is Muslim than there are conditions of Shariah under which his claim could be accepted or may be even rejected. When a thief says that he is not a thief, but ample evidence and witnesses proves him wrong according to Shariah – just as in the case of Zina, EVEN than the principles of shariah are applied before making a judgement. Because evidence in this particular case was oral in nature and very weak in logic. So judge made certificate as the base of his decision, and I am studying more to give my humble perspective on certificate.

    About his personal diary, I am still searching to find out that where he said that it was his personal diary or it was even his hand writing. The diary is cleary written in 1994. To me it more looks like notes of some of his Mureed, unless the accused accepted or someone clearly presented the evidence that it was his hand writing or his personal diary.

    Can someone not present 40 witnesses against you or me after a vilification campaign, oral evidence, weak statements taken out of context, do you think that Shariah allows a Qazi to declare you or me Kafir, Murtad, Kazzab and Wajib-ul-Qatal without even given a chance to appeal? Please bear in mind that a large number of cases at lower court are given against accused and over-turned at higher court levels. But in this case – only now I am learning from this site – that a worse vilification campaign and media-trial meant that someone killed accused, it was the murder of justice – while judge calls his judgement ‘historical’.

    I am studying more as Brother Abu Muhammad recommended. So, please give me some time till I make up my mind.

    Please note that when I read the transcript of his speach and the audio of his speach from ZHE site, I found clear mistakes in the transcription. I will highlight once I complete my study. It will take time though as I am very busy till 9th April.

    Yes.. it is clearly mentioned 100 sahabi, but it was not said that ‘my Sahabi’. We need to see it in context please, and there will be no doubt, if we follow the golden clear principles of Shariah.

    Our deen is very simple, easy, comprehensive and universal. May Allah s.w.t help us seeing things the way they are, not they way we want to see them.

    Last point: When kuffar-e-Makkah called Our Beloved Amin and Saddiq, than they have seen him (saw) 40 years of his (saw)’s life. Here I am hearing that someone met Mohammad Yousuf Ali one time or 5 times, and rather than saying that what he uttered before them was ‘kazib’, should we be foolish or brave enough to call him ‘kazzab’ – based on our very limited knowledge, and stories publsihed in newspapers. Is this this the write attitude according to shariah?

    I want to learn: is there a difference between kazib and kazzab? Yes.. Muslima was kazzab because he went clearly against Quran and Ahadith and declared his Nabuwwat. But in the case at hand – which we are discussing, even eye-witnesses are saying that he was not a NABI – unless I am missing something because I have not read full material available particularly court documents.

    That’s why I asked the question earlier that in what circumstances Shaiaah allows us to call someone Kazzab, Kaffir, Murtad, Wajib ul Qatal?

    My question is that why ulma-e-Karaam (who are waris-ul-Unbiya) have said that based on what Quranic Ayat or clear direction in Ahadith, or ijtihad from our aslaaf? When someone can question Hazrat Umar Farooq Razi Allaho tala unho than we can also question muhtaram Ulmaa-e-Karam? No one is maasoon-min-al-Khata except unbiya.

    As I said Brother Abu Muhammad has been gentle and kind enough to provide me more knowledge, and gave me direction and I am truly trying to follow his recommenedation.

    My heart truly trimbles to think that I label someone ‘kazzab’ without knowing what shari requirements are. How can I demand from ZH to call someone ‘kazzab?

    Yes.. if someone bring a new ayat, go against clear statement of Quran-e-Majeed, than he is ‘kazzab’. And, that’s it. Deen is complete, we don’t need any new Nabi aur Rasool. Quran is complete, concise, and I believe, ‘sahl’/easy as well – may be I am wrong.

    May Allah swt forgive me for my mistakes, and bless you for your sincerity – and I truly believe that a very perhaps all people on this blog are sincere.

    Please be mindful of not punishing someone in the name of shariaah when we have not fulfilled the requirements of shariah.

    Fe Amman Allah

  26. Skhan says:

    Don’t you guys think that we are going in circles?

  27. Asad Ullah says:

    Salam Skhan,

    I think we might be going in circles but we are going upwards – because I believe the time we spend sincerely on site – learning & contributing – is ibadah and we should get ajr in akhiraah. To find and defend the truth even if we have to go a little in circle than it is worth it than going the wrong way fast.

    As sometime ZH’s responds to some questions by answering ‘Total Rubbish’, without giving due respect and importance to the person who is asking the question. It is backbiting, just a feedback for him.

    However, I do agree with you that we don’t conduct our business meetings in this way. A proposal or information in presented, it is discussed, comments are noted, and necessary ammendements are made. It is difficult to do this in on line forums and blogs.

    Thanks for your comment. What I think is that admin of this site are very responsible and sincere with the cause. There is no personal enimity with anyone. They treat every visitor and contributor of this site as a muslim brother/sister and give them due importance and respect.

    Jizak Allah

  28. khurram says:

    Salamz
    bro you said that you are listening to the audio, good .
    Bro sayin sahabi meanz the followerz of Prophet.
    As you mite have read , he said that the HOLY PROPHET PBUH again came back to this world and were present in his body. So the term sahabi meant that he was the prophet and sahabi were with him.
    Nd Calling anyone a sahabi …( even not calling him “my” or “his” sahabi) is a sin and an insult…
    According to a hadees there were 3 best group of people… the sahaba , the tabi and da taba-tabayeeen.

    hope you will find this post informatic…
    jazakallah khair

  29. a2zTruth says:

    21.Furqan comment : He is 100 % correct.

    If any one wants to refute about Yusuf declaring himself as Muhammed ( sav ) and Zaid + other like him believing in Yusuf then he or she is sadly maistaken.

    If zaid did not believe in this , why he has allowed to destroy all his credentials and integrity and has been defending Yusuf ?
    He could also have simply declared Yusuf a Kazab like all Ulemas and Court decision — Think even logic some time.

  30. A2ZTruth says:

    Further to my Comment on 21 Furqan :

    Applying again the same logic – the Hadees what Zaid was quoting to convince people that Yusuf is Muhammed ( sav ) , if he was in to his senses and not possesed by Yusuf he could have interpreted differently that no shaitan can take the form of Muhammed ( sav ) , so Yousuf claim was satanic and he was a shaitan in human uniform. Yusuf 100% was possesed by Shaitan.

    Zaid like a few definitely was One of the important influence to people coming in to this Cult group , because of his own twisted and distrted belief — Even his younger brother and brother in law were dragged in to it – I dont know if they have reverted to Islam or not ? or they are also equally confused yet. I know of this because I met a few Eye Witnesses and they have given me this information.

    Those who defend Yusuf and Zaid belief that Yusuf had holy spirit of MUhammed ( sav )inside him na-oozobiALLah , then I would say Shaitan is also working with them and making them going astray , confusing them about the whole thing – They cant even see the Truth and Facts like day light.

    What Yusuf did , declaring himself as Anaa Muhammed ( sav ) was totally satanic – he looted people and striped the chastity and respect of Women ( married and non married )- thus making a mockery of Muhammed ( sav ) – AstghfarAllah – Lanat Allah on Yusuf and his like. Yusuf used Rasool Allah ( sav ) name for his lustful desires and temptations.
    How the hell any Muslim who has slightest respect for Muhammed ( sav ) can tolerate this , forget about defending him.

    Why cant Zaid or his supporters see things with their eyes open – Why are they getting argumentative and beating around the bush ? They should constantly recite AoozobiAllah menashaitaanirajeem – and Aiyatul kursi and Darood Shareef and Mowazatain to clean themselves from the influence of Shaitan.

    Please focus on the meanings of last couple of verses of Quran of Surat Alnaas , how shaitan / Jin in human uniform can cause waswasah and make people go astray.

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