Fatwa Fobia – Zaid Hamid's Historic Article In Defense Of His False Prophet

Although some of the younger generation might have got confused by the sudden U-turn in Zaid Hamid’s stand – who previously was claiming that he had no relationship with Yusuf Kazab, and have now suddenly came out defending the False Prophet.

But the people in the know, are certainly not confused. Zaid Hamid was one of the most aggressive defenders of his False Prophet, throughout the trial of Yusuf Kazab. He was present in all the court hearings, took letters from one place to other asking people to withdraw the case, tried to threaten and blackmail the people involved in the case against Yusuf Kazab. Even after Yusuf was sentenced to death by hanging, Zaid Hamid didnt rested and wrote a splendid piece of defense in favor of his False Prophet in DAILY DAWN. The article was published on 13th Aug 2000. Zaid Hamid himself re-published it on Chowk.  The article is being re-published here:

FATWA-FOBIA

There are a lot of allegedly moderates pakistanis on the chowk, who believe in human rights, who have woRn out their fingers posting about kashmir, the jinnah speach, the tolerant islam in pakistan, the 2% extremists. In supporting the killing of kashmir in the guise of human rights, selfdetermination etc. they are in tune with the mullahs, who prefer the word jihad.

In the following story, if the alleged moderates criticise the blasphemy laws they will be in conflict with the mullah. No, the moderates cannot afford to do that because of the fatwafobia. The human rights blah blah does not apply to pakistani nationals.

Convicted for blasphemy

A kind, benevolent and honourable Muslim Sufi of a small order has been sentenced to death on blasphemy charges by a court in Lahore. I am an eyewitness to what happened in the court and how the prosecution murdered justice, human dignity, Islamic and contemporary law and all norms of humanity in the name of Islam. Mohammad Yusuf Ali is a staunch Muslim and a scholar of the Holy Quran. He has rendered meritorious services to Islam, Pakistan and humanity in his career. It was only a difference of interpretation which was exploited by extremist mullahs and some Urdu newspapers. Yusuf Ali had already spent two years in jail and now he has been convicted.

I was present in the courtroom to assist the defence lawyers. It was barred to the outside world. I am witness to what happened inside and how he has been convicted. The prosecution had based their case on four items: audio cassette of Juma Khutba, video cassettes of Juma Khutba, Yousuf Ali`s purported diary, and one Pir and his few followers, who claimed that he had claimed to be “Muhammad“ in front of them many years ago!

There was nothing objectionable in the cassettes, and even according to Qanoon-i-Shahadat, they were inadmissible, as the one who had made these was not known. They were highly edited, doctored and manipulated.

The diary was not of Yusuf Ali`s at all, and even the prosecution admitted that they were not sure of its origin. It had no name, no handwriting match, no owner. It was simply alleged on Yusuf Ali and was torn to shreds in its originality and credibility.

The Pir and his followers were again torn to shreds, as none of them was the complainant. They never reported the alleged blasphemy to the police or any other authority, which supposedly happened many years ago. Their credibility did not exist at all in terms of contradictions in cross examinations.

One of them was on bail on fraud charges. The complainant had all the info on hearsay. He had never met the accused in his life. All his info was through Urdu newspapers. He accused Yusuf Ali of adultery, but even in the FIR, the relevant section was not mentioned for lack of evidence, making the complainant liable to “Qazaf“. His testimony was not admissible at all.

Yusuf Ali had categorically, even before the registration of the FIR, made it clear through paid ads that he had not claimed to be a prophet and he was a staunch Muslim. Top religious scholars like Maulana Abdul Sattar Niazi had declared him a true Muslim and asked the charges to be dropped. According to all legal and Shariat requirements he had proved himself to be a true Muslim. Still the prosecution insisted that he called himself a prophet. How can anyone be the judge of someone`s faith? The prosecution lawyers went so overboard that even the judge had to stop them from committing blasphemy in trying to prove Yusuf Ali wrong. Even though Yusuf Ali was on bail, he was arrested one day earlier against all rules, laws and norms. It is extraordinary how the bail given by a High Court was cancelled by the Sessions Court and the accused was arrested.

The whole trial was in camera and the media was not allowed in to hear Yusuf Ali`s explanations, his speeches and comments. The media was also barred from seeing the hopelessness of the prosecution witnesses and their lawyers.

It was on this quality of evidence that a great living sufi has been condemned to death on so many counts that we have lost count.

Now Yusuf Ali is in the line for gallows. Will we wait and let the evil win or raise our voices for our own survival?

Z.Z. HAMID

Rawalpindi

This article has been published as part of  our on-going effort to unearth all evidences, past and present against this believer and defender of False Prophet Yusuf Kazab.

Update: The Chowk article has now been removed by Zaid Hamid but the original letter in Daily DAWN can be viewed here Convicted for Blasphemy, Zaid Hamid’s Article In Daily DAWN 13 Aug 2000 [Original Scan]

74 comments on “Fatwa Fobia – Zaid Hamid's Historic Article In Defense Of His False Prophet

  1. Taha Shahid says:

    I am simply shocked ! Cant believe what I have just read.Guess now I really need to do alot of research about this man!
    Thanks anyway 🙂

  2. Abeer says:

    I don’t find anything wrong with that article, Zaid Zaman is speaking with logic and sense. I have nothing more to say to this false propaganda.

    Regards,

    Abeer

  3. Rehman Mehmood Butt says:

    My dear

    I hear zaid hamid speeches frequently through different resources.
    one thing being as a muslim we must be strict and obvious is that “there is no lord but ALLAH and Muhammad PBUH is the last prophet of ALLAH”.. Anybody,any person who claims to be a prophet after Holly Prophet Hazrat Muhammad PBUH (in any context) is Kafir/Mulhid/Rafizi/Zindeeq and must immidiately be killed or sentenced to death.
    In the case of Yousuf Kazzab, we must have to make a study and research to get to the truth. if his beliefs or teachings reflects his prophethood in any context then he surely is kafir/zindeeq and anybody who defend him is also kafir and must be sentenced to death immidiately.
    just go for the study and then start a campaign….

  4. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Abeer

    You’ve been fooled twice.

    First, when Zaid Hamid got you into his camp by lying that he didn’t know any Yusuf Kazzab
    Second, now when he has enough so-called credibility of words, that you’ll be convinced to what he says.

    Thus, don’t let yourself be fooled the third time, and visit the Khatm-e-Nabuwwat Office at the earliest.

  5. Ali Rashid says:

    Though I am not a die hard fan for Zaid Hamid, I do not see anything wrong with the article.

    In short, he just claims that the allegations on Yusuf Kazzab were wrong as he had never claimed Prophethood in the first place. Zaid’s claims that Yusuf was targetted due to personal rifts with some powerful people, might or might not be true.

    God Knows Better.

    I would only conclude that we should appreciate correct, moral and ethical speech, whatever be its source. Even if its Zaid Hamid.

    May Curse Be upon all the Deniers of Finality of Prophet Muhammad SAW. Aameen.

  6. kkhan says:

    i want to see one quote,saying,message or declaration by zaid hamid in any of his programs/lectures which is contrary to the teachings of Quran and Sunnah………i myself cant find any? then how can we accuse him of blasphemy simply by using an assortment of obscured and obliterated statements/news articles. zaid hamid was not the only acquaintance of yousaf kazab.a number of other renowned scholars were also included in the list of acquaintances.a major name being maulana abdul sitar niazi.then why is zaid hamid being targeted so strongly.if we have to discuss this issue, then we should look into every person affiliated with this issue.
    the district court where yousaf kazab was put to trial itself couldnt prove if yousaf kazab had claimed to be a reincarnation of our Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H)…Astaghfirullah! yousaf kazab might have been a corrupt man but blasphemy is one completely different issue.
    Zaid Hamid himself has given a pretty fine clarification of this whole propaganda recently.an accusation of ‘kufr’ or blasphemy is not a small accusation so we should be pretty clear on such a stand.such an accustion if not proven true befalls on the accuser.
    May Allah guide us all to wisdom and truth. Ameen

  7. […] Exposition on Zaid Hamid Admits his Links to Yousuf Kazzab and Defends himAbu Muhammad on Fatwa Fobia – Zaid Hamid’s Historic Article In Defense Of His False ProphetMUDASSIR on Orignal Footage – Yousuf Kazzab introducing Zaid Zaman as Sahabi […]

  8. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Ali Rashid

    [I would only conclude that we should appreciate correct, moral and ethical speech, whatever be its source. Even if its Zaid Hamid.]

    This statement is very dangerous. This is one of the whispers of Satan. We should avoid this because if we open this door, then we have to accept and appreciate any correct, moral and ethical speech even if it is done by the Qadyanis and Gohar Shahis(Kafir by Consensus of Ummah).

    Zaid Hamid is not an authority to decide on the case of ‘Yousuf Kazzab’, we Alhamdulillah, have by the grace of Allah, Aalmi Majlis Tahaffuz Khatm-e-Nubuwwat, to resolve these matters for us.

    Zaid Hamid should immediately go the Ulama of Aalmi Majlis Tahaffuz Khatm-e-Nubuwwat, and have himself cleared off from them now because he is honestly running out of chances. I believe, with his last acceptance of events, he is already out of chances now.

    Ameen to your duas.

  9. Abu Muhammad says:

    @Kkhan

    If you haven’t found a single thing regarding Zaid Hamid teachings that are contrary to Quran and Sunnah, then, I believe you need to go back and revise your Islamic Teachings.

    Please, don’t be an advocate to Zaid Hamid, and become a mufti to issue ‘fatwas’ to ‘clear’ Zaid Hamid of his association to Yousuf Kazzab.

    Visit the credible International Organization of Aalmi Majlis Tahaffuz Khatm-e-Nubuwwat, to clear your doubts and don’t be double fooled by the agents of Kazzab.

  10. Shahid Raheem says:

    Aur aik aur baat, is tym Zaid hamid k elawa aur koi admi Qom ko jaganay main nai laga hua.. aik banda koi naik kam kar raha hay to karnay do bhai usko… jesay hi koi aur admi agaya hum uskay peechay ho lain gay…

  11. […] Yusuf Kazab’s lawyers and that he was an eye-witness to the entire trial. For references see Zaid Hamid’s article published in DAILY DAWN on 13th August, 2000 and his on camera statements that he took up the case and defended Yusuf Kazab […]

  12. Sheraz says:

    i use to be a die hard fan of Zaid hamid even my wife was sick of me because i use to listen Zaid Hamid so much…One thing i have found in Zaid Hamid which nobody can argue is that he is a great TALKER/Speaker….He has this personlaity…His links to KAZAAB and defending him are shocking to me but pleasing to my wife
    i have stopped listening to him….His method of attarcting croud what i have found is very simple…JUST CURSE AMERICA__INDIA_ISRAEL and everybody would listen.

    HE LIED TO PEOPLE FOR 2 years and repeatedly said he didnt have any links to KAZAAB.now he know he has some support so he declares KAZAAB innocent….

    I can smell a new fiqa ZAMANI…since according to him if the courts are not SHARIA and even the courts would declare him non muslim HE WOULD BE still be a muslim (by his definition)

    He is a great speaker and should repent to ALLah for his sins…and come clean against KAZAAB(covicted)..ofcourse Allah is the most merciful and if he repents we should apprecaiet

    other wise MR ZAID HAMID should be dealt accordingly

  13. Omer Ilyas says:

    All people who are having a discussion regarding Zaid Hamid and Yousaf Kazzab. I have the soft copy of the book Fitna Yousaf Kazzab. If you want it then please do email me on omerilyas@hotmail.com. I will certainly provide you that. Secondly please don’t reach your own verdicts and just read the Islamic Shariah for guidance. Clear rules are mentioned in Shariah regarding this matter. Thirdly I have never known that the Law requires the witnesses to a case to be the complainants also. Fourthly the Tahafuz-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwat Council declared him Shatim -e-Rasool according to my knowledge and if a person is defending him then you all know are wise. Fifthly I can’t understand the logic that he is wakening up the nation. Can you tell me one solution that he has provided to the current problems. Sixthly if a person is a follower of a Shatim-e-Rasool then I can’t say anything regarding your faiths but according to mine whateber he or she says or how much correct he or she is I would never ever follow him or her.

    [Edited: Abu Muhammad]
    [Remarks: Let this case rest with Scholars ]

  14. Muhammad Avais says:

    I agree that let this case rest with scholars but at the same time i blv that this guy has become a BIG FITNA..
    Now what i think we should start is debate about what he says.. from my first ever experience of listening to his views.. i was alarmed by his thoughts.. and started kept following him.. This Yousuf kazzab thing came in my notice later on..
    Guys.. this guys is taking benefit of our youth’s emotional situation about current issues and lake of knowledge of history and knowledge about western propaganda & psychological warefare…
    Whatever he is saying is fulfilling western agenda.. guys solution to taliban and balochistan and Pak’s problems doesnt lie in emotionalism. This kind of emotionalism leads to further chaos and problems. This topic needs a detailed debate but for now just go through the statements of such emotional blackmailer intelectals before 1971 war, before first gulf war and before us attack on Afganistan. Guys do u remember in 1990-1991 who brought and distributed posters of saddam posing him as a Great Islamic Fighter. Who were advocating that he will show some miracle and being a resident of gulf i know the impact of such stupid emotionalism. It resuled in a great spred of hopelessness.. I am not a coward or against fighting for islam but i blv that a true muslim is the wisest person as well.. Give it a thought..
    May Allah enlighten us with right Path.. Wassalam

  15. Shahzad says:

    I am a teacher by profession and have worked in numerous different prestigious academic and non-academic organizations over the last decade. My very first job was that of a journalist and I have conducted a number of investigations. Many of my students are great admirers of Zaid Hamid. Over the last couple of years he has gained fame throughout the country especially among the youth. At the same time there have been allegations raised against him which led me to search for the truth whether he really was and is guitly of the accusations levelled against him or not.

    I have thoroughly analysed the proofs with particular focus on visual (video) evidence provided against Zaid Hamid; however, I have not found anything convincing enough to prove the truthfulness of these allegations. Zaid Hamid admits to knowing Yousaf Ali and meeting him, but none of the videos prove that he was a disciple of Yousaf. Just for meeting Yousaf Ali, he can not be called a disciple. Many of our respectable religious scholars have met Hindu, Buddist, Christian, and Jewish scholars for religious debates, but just because our religious scholars met people of other religions we can not say that our scholars had intentions of or they did change their religion.

    One of the visuals shown as evidence against him is entitled “Original Footage, in which Yousuf Kazzab introduces Zaid Zaman as Sahabi and Zaid Zaman praises Yousuf Kazzab in return”, but in reality it is not a footage (video). Rather it is an audio recording. Though the voice is similar, but it is not the same. It clearly is that of someone else. The CIA produced fake videos of Osama Bin Ladin. In case of the footage (actually audio) posted against Zaid Hamid, it is a poor attempt to copy Zaid Hamid’s voice.

    Photograpic cameras as well as video cameras were introduced in Pakistan long before its independence. If Yousaf Ali had so many followers as well as enemies, I am sure they would have captured thousands of photos and videos of Zaid Hamid attending sermons and gatherings of Yousaf Ali. There must have been some real evidence other than the few bogus videos that are on Youtube that really don’t prove anything what the posters of these videos allege.

    One individual by the name of Engr. Naveed, of Ameer Tanzeem-i-Islami, Karachi, which is a religious organization of Dr. Israr Ahmad claims that a warning was issued to Zaid Hamid to dis-associate himself from Yousaf Ali or be prepared for consequences. I would appreciate if someone can verify from Dr. Israr Ahmad regarding the authenticity of this warning issued to Zaid Hamid. Most probably Dr. Israr Ahmad’s name is being used without his permission to give sanctity and force to the false claim or warning being issued whereas Dr. Israr Ahmad may not even be aware of such an action.

    Another individual by the name of Hesham A Syed claims to be a witness of Yousaf Ali’s kufr and Zaid Zaman being a disciple of Yousaf Ali. He claims to have met Yousaf Ali at least 6 times. Why didn’t this person come on the media? Why only a written statement? The least he could have done is posted a video of himself on Youtube to authenticate the allegations. This person has provided an e-mail address for contact and claims to be in Canada. I actually look forward to meeting him if I visit Canada 3 to 4 months from now, but I am quite sure since it was a false allegation he will never meet me in person.

    The softcopy of the book titled “Fitna Yousaf Kazaab” also seems to be a fabrication. It gives references to articles that were published in various newspapers in which the Yousaf Ali story was covered. I would appreciate if someone can provide actual cuttings of the newspapers. All newspaper publishers keep past copies of their newspapers. A verification can be done by approaching the newspaper publishers of the cited newspaper articles. Posting the original newspaper cuttings would be more authentic than giving references and citations in some unreliable book.

    There is a possibility that the accused Yousaf Ali may have been wrongly punished. Interestingly, while investigating I discovered that at one post it was claimed that Yousaf Ali was assassinated in prison by another inmate belonging to Sipah-e-Sahaba whereas in another post it was stated that he was hanged in 2000. The contradictory statements make the authenticity of the overall allegations dubious.

    While there are allegations from certain unknown ulema perhaps many have ignored that a prominent aalim-e-deen Abdus Sattar Niazi on numerous occasions said that this accused Yousaf Ali was actually innocent and was being wrongly framed.

    Unfortunately, we are an emotional and aggressive nation. Without confirming the reality we easily fall prey to false propaganda that the enemies of Islam and hypocrites spread. Why don’t those who claim to have authentic and verifiable proof against Zaid Hamid take the case against him to court. Everybody believes dubious comments that are posted on the internet, but few bother to research and confirm the truthfulness of such accusations while most blindly accept such harsh charges levelled against others.

    If videos on Youtube are to be trusted then why can’t our nation see the harm that Zardari and his stuges in PPP done to Pakistan? We ignore real issues of national level and indulge in levelling petty and baseless accusations against those trying to do some good for Pakistan.

    A Hadith says, “Suni sunayee baat ko bhi aage phailana jhoot bolnain ke mutaradif hai.”

    Please “Wake up Pakistan.”

  16. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Shahzad

    If I summarize your fancy writing, then you are trying to say directly the following

    1. Yousuf Ali was not a Kazzab
    2. Khatam-e-Nabuwwat Scholars got Yousuf Kazzab killed without evidence
    3. Zaid Zaman is not a disciple of Yousuf Kazzab
    4. The proofs of video given are fake
    5. We are passing information regarding Tanzeem-i-Islami without authenticating
    6. Hesham A Syed claim doesn’t seem to satisfy you
    7. Trying to claim that we as emotional humans have been lead prey to enemies propaganda
    8. Advised us on the hadith of Prophet (sallallahu ‘alayhi wassallam)

    Without commenting on what version of search that you have done with regard to Yousuf Kazzb. Let me say this the following briefly.

    You seem to have only focused yourself on this audio cassette recording, there are many other documents that were presented in the court, to proof about his deviant aqeedah as well as 14 witnesses testified in the court regarding it. I would appreciate, if you would read the following refutation and expositions:

    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/top-10-refutations/
    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/haqeeqat-ki-talash-part-1-daily-ummat/
    http://zaidhamidexposition.org/haqeeqat-ki-talash-part-2-daily-ummat/

    Let me briefly say the following

    1. If your sincere in your investigation of this issue, have you visited Khatm-e-Nabuwat Scholars regarding Yousuf Kazzab(preferring your school of thought – if you have any)? What evidences and point of view you have from them? Have you checked? Or is it that we just satisfy ourselves with one party claim only? A sensible person always looks into both arguments before reaching a conclusion.

    2. When you claim, that he got killed without a reason – where is your evidence to support it?

    3. You should read the book “Rahbar kay roop main Rahzan” which clearly explains the role of Zaid Hamid, with regard to the case. The excuse, that a lot of people know Yousuf Kazzab (which is the same rant that Zaid Hamid makes), will not work because, we are not taking Zaid Hamid into account because of this. He is taken into account because he was the one who defended Yousuf Kazzab in the court proceedings, and if you see now, he is defending him again and not terming him as Kazzab. Is it all too difficult to do? Thus, this absurd argument will not work, because all the other people who were if linked to Yousuf Kazzab – didn’t believe in him nor defended him by any means.

    4. This audio recording is back in 1997 – when Zaid Hamid was not that old and the court accepted this as evidence against Yousuf Kazzab at that time – not against Zaid Hamid. But since now it is very well known that Zaid Zaman mentioned in it is the same because he is the same person who was assisting the defense lawyers in the all the court proceedings against Yousuf Kazzab testifies that the stance taken by Khatm-e-Nabuwwat Scholars is correct and we should stand by them, not with Kazzabs. If we have technology to make fake audio/videos, don’t you think that we have a technology available which would identify the authenticity of audio/video recordings? Common, we are living in 21st Century. These sort of forgery can’t go unnoticed. Zaid Hamid back in 1997 was not even popular, so what will one get by forging his voice in the first place? This are all just lame excuses to defend a False Prophet and it’s cult.

    5. Patience is a virtue and soon Insha’Allah you’ll come to know of it. It is well known that at least there is no way the Tanzeem-i-Islami, will defend Yousuf Kazzab. Regarding Zaid Hamid, let’s see what stance they take. But at least you should revise your research on Yousuf Kazzab case.

    6. Regarding your eagerness to meet Hesham A Syed who is in Canada, why don’t you right now visit all the live witnesses of Yousuf Kazzab case – who are in Pakistan right now, if you are really sincere? Please see the links above shared with you to do your own investigation, rather than relying on us solely.

    7. We define enemy – with pretext to Islam. If your keep your context and pretext correct , then right now, Zaid Hamid as a personality is in double jeopardy, one for the Yousuf Kazzab case, and second, for all the fake defense analysis that he has done – which according to our investigation is already wrong and hyped.

    8. We respect and follow the Prophet (sallallahu ‘alayhi wassallam) hadith, but do you really think that it is only us who need to follow it, not Zaid Hamid and cult, while they come on talk shows and bash each and every individual without authenticating the news from the sources in which two parties are involved ? At the same time, your assumption regarding us that is based on bad guman, also needs to be revisited.

    I strongly advice and urge you, to re-investigate your research from a proper perspective without any bias and blind loyalties and visit Khatm-e-Nabuwwat nearby offices at the earliest, and let us know about the updates. If there is anything wrong in our blog and is based on disinformation – we are open to change it and we are not arrogant in our blind-loyalties unlike the cult that we face currently as of now.

    Please “Wake up Islam.”

    [Warning]
    Please put your comment/queries in one section only and don’t flood our blog with the same comment in different posts and don’t make us feel how desperate your to have your comment moderated. Be patient and give time, till your comment is moderated.

  17. Muhammad Junaid says:

    Assalam O Alaekum,

    Research is not everybody’s business. But whoever does it things become evident, facts are revealed.

    But how many of us have prayed 2 Nafl each day just for the purpose that Allah guides us to “The Path” of true beleievers? I suppose no one.

    Please do research and blog all day but keep in mind all these arguments are just for one purpose that we don’t let ourselves in hands of a person or a group that leads us to the Fire of Jahannam.

    My sincere advice.. Please pray every day for this purpose.

  18. hesham syed says:

    Shahzad,
    I dont like to comment on your reactionary note to so many on this Web as it will be replied by individual and quite honestly I have not read all , however Your comments on my credibility makes me laugh as well as I feel sorry for you at the same time -I am a Canadian citizen , how ever I keep travelling to Middle East for my professional assignments – I am in Saudi Arabia these days – If you happen to come to Riyadh you are most welcome to meet me – My mobile no 00966555209136
    and I shall be going to Canada in the month of August – Let me know when are you coming to Canada / Toronto – and I will find time to meet you there if you are so keen – send me message on my Yahoo email and I will respond – So far Video is concerned many like you are just getting entertained with all what is going on and if some one does not want to believe so many evidences already produced like day light or what I have written ,it is his or her choice – After all people have been rejecting the most trustworthy person on the earth ie the Prophet ( saw ) himself and have doubted even his credibility – MaiN tto unka Ghulaam hooN , so I am really not pushed about you or any one who cast doubt on me . Good luck & may Allah guide you to understand the seriousness of the whole issue.

  19. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Muhammad Junaid

    Walaikum asslam wa rahmatullah,

    It will be quite naive of you to think that the bloggers of ‘Zaid Hamid Exposition’ are some enemy agents, who doesn’t pray – and don’t seek Allah’s help with their prayers. We are Muslim, as the first obligation after faith upon us to pray.

    Don’t use these absurd arguments, to defend , something even you haven’t searched. For Zaid Hamid cult, Zaid Hamid saying is like Quran, his lecture is like hadith, his actions are like prayers. With this mentality in hand, we can’t help them much.

    Honestly, to advise you, I believe you should start practicing Husn-e-Zhan for your other Muslims brothers, even though this message to pray (also 5 times prayers) also -I suggest you give to Zaid Hamid cult.

  20. hesham syed says:

    To All Concerned :

    Some thing very interesting is coming up in the whole situation and that is many who want to keep themselves blind folded always insist on Video as a proof – or at least an Audio as another proof because writing and statement cant be trusted – This applies that we all should carry a Video camera or at least a Tape recorder all time where ever we go and who so ever we meet controversial or non controversial because you never know what can be disputed and what can be made controversial – None of us check with our mothers to produce a video to validate our fathers and not any of us go to even check our Genes if it is the right one but it is the trust in the mother which works – Possibly the modern age and people of this age should start demanding this – There was a time when our older people / generation did not even record their Nikah Nama and just physical evidence ( Gawah ) was good enough according to Sharia , so should all those marriages be called not valid and all children born out of that wedlock be considered illegitimate ? How many of us in our daily life keep recording every thing what we say or what we do to present it as an evidence other than official work which is in writing – Interesting enough that those who want to keep their eyes and ears shut , even the videos or audios presented as an evidences becomes doubtful to them as some one could have fabricated all these things – In the world of mistrust how can you convince any one for the truth to prevail – Above all , may be it is time for Allah ( swt) to send His video to convince that He exists and may be many of us will demand the photos and videos of all the prophets of Allah to make sure that they existed – As I have written earlier that Rejection and Acceptance is also a psychological phenomena , it depends on individual upbringing & mental health – Those who doubted even prophet Muhammed ( saw ) or any other Prophets ( pbut ) kept on demanding signs , mo-ajzats ( not videos of course in those days ) to prove themselves but those who were after these signs , very few of them reverted to be true Mslims and a few converted to seasonal Muslims and those who had faith on the words of Prophet ( saw ) or other Prophets they could see and hear what was spoken to them internally and embraced whole heartedly all what was conveyed by Allah ( swt) through His beloved ones . IF and BUTS and playing with words is the style of hypocrites and such people have always been a part of human society. Those who think that blasphemy to Prophet ( saw ) is not a serious issue and we should close our eyes and pursue our economic well being blindly because some one is entertaining a large gathering on the stage that he will make it happen then obviously they have made their choices , Creating mass hysteria is also great fun – Wake Up Pakistan is all right but prior to that Wake Up Muslim Pakistani is much more important without which Pakistan will be doomed.
    It is time to decide whether we want to live in Pakistan where factually secularism is practiced under the slogan of establishing Islam by people intoxicated by fiery speeches and by those who themselves have violated the fundamental principles and are transgressors then good luck for them, they can continue dancing on the tune being played – We all should continue watching VIDEOS of progressive Pakistan as a proof that this country is really progressing.

  21. muhammad says:

    i must say mr abu muhammad, u seem to be on a mission to defame him and are sitting on this blog the whole day so u can quickly create an argument against those who are in support of him. pls come forth and show urself also as we’d like test your credibilty as well

  22. muhammad says:

    also one more thing….u seem to be closely affiliated with the khatame nabuwat scholarsI( i dont know who they include) but surely sounds like this whole episode is coming directly from them…

  23. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Muhammad

    We are not inviting you to seek our credibility. For that you can visit Khatm-e-Nabuwwat to confirm what we are saying.

    We are just doing the job of passing the information to the Muslim Masses as a duty. To investigate it further and consult the Ulama is in your hands.

    If calling the follower of the False Prophet – Yousuf Kazzab – A Kazzab – is defaming, then let the history be witness, we are ‘defamers’.

  24. Muhammad Avais says:

    @Muhammad: Being a muslim if you dont think that fighting againts KAZZAB NABI and his followers should be a mission then i dont have words for u…
    Whereas i am concerned.. i dont know abu muhammad.. this blog was forwraded to me by a friend.. but i was already individually following the matter at my own.. because i blv that this is my duty as a muslim to do so.. I accept that due to my life and responsibilities(Which cant be a justification at all) i couldn’t take such action as abu muhammad did.. but his credibility for me is his great work and dedication which he has put over here..

  25. Muhammad Avais says:

    @ Syed Hashim:
    Very right you are… This is a result of two factors i believe..

    1. Western media and their partners in Pakistan have started a prapoganda and psychological war against our nation. A major result of that is current confusion and doubtfulness about any and every thing. I personally blv that Zaid Hamid is a part of that war faced by Pakistan. Anyway This issue needs a detailed debate.

    2. Our youth has become so much lazy and busy with irrelivent things that they dont even want to move to varify the Shetaniyat of Yousuf Kazzab and his fellows. So what they want is to be provided with videos and such materials so they can blv while sitting in their cozy rooms and playing their favorite game or watching their favorite movie.
    This is what Zaid Hamid is taking benefit of. Common guys… you are asking for videos etc.. Abu Muhammad asked so many times to go to session court lahore for record, contact Almi Khatm e Nabuwwat and other scholars involved.. You guys cant even do that???? Trust me, it wont cost you any thihng and these people whom you are encouraged to contact are not ministers or secrateries so you dont need to be afraid.. They are accessible by everyone.. After doing that, if you are not satisfied, then you have full right to claim for further evidence.. MOVE ppl.. Is this our love for our beloved Prophet PBUH and his respect and status???
    Lastly.. If you wanna talk against Aalmi Majlise Khatme Nabuwat.. at least do some research about their past.. see what have they done in past and then decide how should they be treated??
    (Note: Apologies for spell mistakes as wrote it in a hurry..)
    Wassaalam

  26. hesham syed says:

    Abu Muhammed Aoa – Allah may bless you – keep doing a good job – Dont bother what people say to you – Your reward is with Allah ( swt ) – there is no personal enemosity against any one – there is no hate campaign – We all will embrace Zaid or any one from Yusuf Ali group with wide hands once they understand that any sympathy or support of Gustakhey Rasool like Yusuf is being in the same tribe or Cult , hence this can not be accepted and compromised at any cost by a Muslim and a devotee of Prophet ( saw ) – Possibly member of Yusuf group / Cult or their sympathizers do not understand or dont want to understand that to pretend having acquired the same status as of Muhammed Rasool ( saw ) or to impersonate Huzoor ( saw )is even worse a crime than declaring one self as a new prophet.We cant allow this devilish design or philosophy to expand any further – There are enough non-sense already around to deal with – Those who still like to provide their support to Gustakhey Rasool , let them make their own choice – Allah ( swt ) knows how to deal with these people , we are just trying to Caution them , Warn them for their own benefit. Once they will come out with devilish spell they will realize that in reality we were their benefactor and well wishers.

  27. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Hesham Syed

    Waalaikum asslam wa rahmatullah,

    Jazakallah Khair for the moral support. May Allah (Ta’alah) also bless you for speaking out the truth to help the other Muslim Ummah understand this fitnah. Ameen.

    Indeed, anyone who declares Yousuf Ali as Kazzab is heartily welcome without any hatred against him/her and this is what we seek to advice to them. At the same time, we are with the Ulamah of Khatm-e-Nabuwwat on the stance of Zaid Hamid. If Zaid Hamid retreats from his stance, and shows his Bara’ from Yousuf Kazzab, based upon Shariah’ – we’ll have nothing against him.

    But if not, we have no choice but to stand firm against them, and they will be stopped in every nuke and corner – until they retreat . Bi’iznillah.

  28. kkhan says:

    @Abu Muhammad

    this is what i had said earlier
    “i want to see one quote,saying,message or declaration by zaid hamid in any of his programs/lectures which is contrary to the teachings of Quran and Sunnah………i myself cant find any?”
    and this is how u replied….
    “If you haven’t found a single thing regarding Zaid Hamid teachings that are contrary to Quran and Sunnah, then, I believe you need to go back and revise your Islamic Teachings.”

    well my dear sir, i request u “to point out any statement/word/declaration in any of zaid hamid’s lectures and programs” that u find contrary to Quran and Sunnah.u cant just make an allegation and then not give proof.if u claim that zaid hamid has said anything that goes against our religion, then prove it.give me a reference form any lecture or program that u find wrong.and then i’ll see how much understanding of Quran and Sunnah u yourself have.but please i want zaid hamid’s words him that u find misleading/false.dont paste some link of an article by some unknown/lost accuser.

    and as far this following accusation of yours is concerned
    “Please, don’t be an advocate to Zaid Hamid, and become a mufti to issue ‘fatwas’ to ‘clear’ Zaid Hamid of his association to Yousuf Kazzab.”…………
    i have only one reply to it the above statement……
    ” And say: Truth has(now) arrived and falsehood perished:for falsehood (by its nature) is bound to perish.”__Al-Quran(Surah Bani-Israel-17)

  29. kkhan says:

    @ Abu Muhammad

    the people who listen to zaid hamid and believe in him are educated enough to differentiate between right and wrong.if zaid hamid has some other agenda other than what he has claimed to have than he will lose his following and support.
    if Zaid hamid is a good man, i pray that Allah may help him in his cause.and if he is a bad man, then Allah alone is sufficient to judge and punish him.u really dont have to start a crusade against Zaid hamid on this blog.
    observe the man for some time and Inshallah the truth shall reveal itself in time.

    in our religion when there is no way to prove something or decide on some controversy between two people, they make a dua/prayer that whoever is the liar, may the curse of Allah fall upon him. so i should conclude by saying that if Zaid hamid is a liar than may the curse of Allah fall upon him and if those who are falsely accusing him of blasphemy are liars then may the curse of Allah fall upon them that they declared a ‘believer’ as a ‘non-believer’.

    and if now u have to reply,plz talk logically and decently without telling anyone to revise their “religious understanding” as u accused me earlier.

  30. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ kkhan

    the people who listen to zaid hamid and believe in him are educated enough to differentiate between right and wrong


    And the people of Islam knows more better than how to differentiate between right and wrong.

    When I ask you to “revise your religious understanding” – it’s an advice. From where do you conclude that it is indecent and illogical, I don’t understand? Is it only just that your good in throwing words for the sake of argument?

    Let me revise your dua
    “so i should conclude by saying that if Zaid hamid AND COMPANY is a liar than may the curse of Allah fall upon THEM and if those who are falsely accusing him of blasphemy are liars then may the curse of Allah fall upon them that they declared a ‘believer’ as a ‘non-believer’.”

    At the end, I don’t understand, why your defending Zaid Hamid, when Tanzem-i-Islami has already made clear that Yousuf was Kazzab. I don’t know why Zaid Hamid has not called him a “Fasadi”, “Takfeeri” when he calls Yousuf as Kazzab. Honestly, he should take his 9mm pistol, he loves to talk about, and shoot himself – if he really is a man of words – which I’m afraid he is not.

  31. Muhammad Avais says:

    @KKhan:

    Brother.. Here are some simple things Zaid Hamid Did againt Islam and Quran (From the point of view of an ordinary muslim not scholar)
    1. LIE: In his programs he said many times he doenst know Yousuf and then in last video he admited his relation and when asked about his refusal to know kazzab he said “I know Yousuf Ali not Yousuf Kazzab” Quran and Islamd doesnt recognize such word playing at all.
    2. ANOTHER LIE: Dr. Israr supported him in Yousuf case.. WRONG.. i personally varified it from a close person of Dr. Israr and now their statement is released by even Zaid Hamid.
    3. Look at his programs with modren women and men together.. ON THE NAME OF ISLAM.. Do u find it justified in the ight of QURAN and SUNNAH?
    4. His views on war against Taliban and Balochis (I personally blv that this isnt just political issue) Which Islam teaches you to kill you own brothers (i am not talking about fighter Taliban, i am talking about innocents and look at the ratio 2-5% killed are fighter and rest innocents..) Perhaps you need to go through islamic history and specially the life of Khaled Bin Waleed RA

    There are lots of things.. one just need to open their eyes…

  32. kkhan says:

    @ Abu Muhammad
    “I don’t understand, why your defending Zaid Hamid, when Tanzem-i-Islami has already made clear that Yousuf was Kazzab”………..

    zaid hamid is one issue and tanzem-i-islami another perspective. i have seen multiple lectures in which Dr.Israr has called Zaid Hamid in his lectures.the last lecture being held in lahore in which Dr.Israr had invited Z.Hamid as a guest pseaker was telecast on Dunya Tv. if Z.hamid is such a controversial man then why would Dr.Israr call him as a speaker in one of his programs?

    and i say it again tht zaid hamid is not followed by a bunch of blind idiots tht he’ll declare some psychopath to be a prohpet and they’ll believe him.the people listening to him r ‘educated’ enough to set the truth apart from the lies.and i dont feel the need to mention the people of the faith/religion.they wont lose their minds in any case.but even the educated people have enough sense not to doubt the finality of the prophet hood of our beloved prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h).

    “I don’t understand, why your defending Zaid Hamid, when Tanzem-i-Islami has already made clear that Yousuf was Kazzab. I don’t know why Zaid Hamid has not called him a “Fasadi”, “Takfeeri” when he calls Yousuf as Kazzab. Honestly, he should take his 9mm pistol, he loves to talk about, and shoot himself – if he really is a man of words – which I’m afraid he is not.”…………..

    Z.Hamid clearly said tht Yousaf got corrupt by the end of his time.he never appreciated him………so why should he shoot himself on your demand when what to talk of convincing Z.hamid himself, u cant even convince me.and one major question, why was yousaf kazab defended by Maulana Abdul Sittar Niazi while Maulana Sahib himself was such a strong fighter for Khatam-e-Nabuwat tht he along with Maulana Maududi had launched a full-fledged campaign against Ahmedis.and was later convicted for this.why would such a strong man say tht this case of yousaf kazab was being misinterpretted?this came in DAWN news. and secondly ‘in the courtroom’, the judge of tht district court had said tht its not proven whether yousaf kazab had claimed prophet hood or not.the convict, the judge, the witnesses,the accusation,the decision…………we dont have a clear picture of anything.

    my point is tht since yousaf kazab is dead, i cant go and catch him and then ask him if he claims to be prophet.but zaid hamid is alive and he has said clearly tht he believes Muhammad (s.a.w) to be the last prophet and messenger of Allah.so i take his word on this till he does something or says something tht i find offensive or blasphemous.just because one of your acquaintances ends up committing murder doesnt make u a murderer too.

    and u still havent responded to my demand……….“to point out any statement/word/declaration in any of zaid hamid’s lectures and programs” that u find contrary to Quran and Sunnah”……..so whether i’m good at words or not, we’ll decide later.first u give some evidence.

  33. kkhan says:

    @Muhammad Avais

    “1. LIE: In his programs he said many times he doenst know Yousuf and then in last video he admited his relation and when asked about his refusal to know kazzab he said “I know Yousuf Ali not Yousuf Kazzab” Quran and Islamd doesnt recognize such word playing at all.”…….

    does Z.hamid seem such a stupid man to first say one thing and then the other.whatever he has said, he has owned it.u cant look into a man’s heart.he has given a fair explanation of his links and about his own faith.if he had to lie, he could lie now too.instead he acknowledged tht he knew yousaf kazab and tht he himself doesnt believe in yousaf being a prophet.tht is good enough for any sane man.

    “2. ANOTHER LIE: Dr. Israr supported him in Yousuf case.. WRONG.. i personally varified it from a close person of Dr. Israr and now their statement is released by even Zaid Hamid.”

    Dr.Israr is on good terms with Zaid hamid as i mentioned in my earlier post.if Z.hamid was doing something wrong, i feel Dr.Israr would never hide it.so if Dr.Israr hasnt accused Z.hamid of blasphemy so far, we dont need to make any assumptions on our own.

    “3. Look at his programs with modren women and men together.. ON THE NAME OF ISLAM.. Do u find it justified in the ight of QURAN and SUNNAH?”

    i attended the wake up pakistan lecture at convention center islamabad.there were separate sections for ladies and gents.i myself was sitting in a separate section.there were a few sections dedicated for families too but majority of the sections were separate for men and women.yes, there may be some combined lectures too but tht isnt planned deliberately.the capacity of the hall/room matters too.and in a broader perspective, when u spread a message, u invite everyone to listen.u cant put a condition tht only those praying five times a day can come and listen…..u have to open up for everyone, u never know when Allah may show somebody the way to truth.

    “4. His views on war against Taliban and Balochis (I personally blv that this isnt just political issue) Which Islam teaches you to kill you own brothers (i am not talking about fighter Taliban, i am talking about innocents and look at the ratio 2-5% killed are fighter and rest innocents..) Perhaps you need to go through islamic history and specially the life of Khaled Bin Waleed RA”

    Z.hamid not once has supported tht killing of innocent people.but it was time for action.yes innocent people lost their lives but our army has given sacrifices too. there was no other way to get back at TTP. so an operation was imminent.sometimes the road to peace passes through a war……if u want peace,prepare for war.if u want salvation,prepare for peace.

    and yes i am well aware of Hazrat Khaled Bin Waleed RA.he was considered a superb general.be it against the muslims or for the muslims, he never lost one war as a general.it was his planning tht muslims lost Ghazva-e-uhad, such a genius mind he had.when he embraced Islam, he ended up being a great muslim military planner and general.so much so tht he was once removed from his position as a general and fought as an ordinary soldier since the muslims were beginning to account their victory to him.and the Khalifa wanted to break this belief of the muslim army tht they were winning because of Hazrat Khalid. at the time of his death there was no part of his body not bearing an injury.he wished for martyrdom all his life but since our beloved Prophet(s.a.w) has declared him ‘Saif Ullah’ i.e the Sword of Allah, so his wish wasnt fulfilled and he died a natural death.

  34. hesham syed says:

    Have faith & Trust always the hidayat and blessing from Allah ( swt ) and not the level of worldly education you have acquired -There are huge numbers of so called educated people who have gone astray – Are Idol worshippers , Aethiest and member of numerous Cult group and of man made religion not educated from worldly point of view ?
    There were many scholars and people of words & wisdom but they could not embrace Islam and applied their logic and so called knowledge and other resources to do away with Islam and Prophet ( saw ) himself. Are they not termed in Quran as donkeys with book loaded on their back ?

    chashmey Bina bhi kar Khuda sey talab
    Aankh kaa noor , dil kaa noor naheeN

    Be careful – read Quran and Hadees also to evaluate who is saying and practicing what ?

  35. kkhan says:

    and now i humbly request that if u have to reply, dont make the same accusations again and again. dont start writing the same allegations from the very beginning.

    in my opinion, our dua/prayer for the curse of Allah to fall upon the liar should be sufficient for our satisfaction.and is a good enough reason for us all to keep quiet and wait for time to reveal the truth.

    so if u have some thing good to add, by all means do it.otherwise its better to stay silent.because i’m not repeating myself now. let time unfold the facts and let Allah be the judge.

    “And who is better than Allah as a Judge for a people who have firm faith?”__Al-Quran(5:51)

  36. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Kkhan

    If the truth is not clear to you, then you can stay silent and be quiet for the time being. But for those, for whom the truth is clear – they will not stop neither should you ask them to stop.

  37. kkhan says:

    “And when it is said to them: ‘Create not disorder on the earth,’ they say: ‘We are only promoters of peace.Beware! it is surely they who create disorder, but they do not perceive it.”__Al-Quran(2:12-13)

    Who break the covenant of Allah after having established it, and cut asunder what Allah has bidden to be joined, and create disorder in the earth; it is these that are the losers.’__Al-Quran(2:28)

    may Allah guide us all to truth and peace.

  38. kkhan says:

    “Allah has set a seal on their hearts and their ears, and over their eyes is a covering; and for them is a great punishment.”__Al-Quran(2:8)

  39. Muhammad Avais says:

    @ KKhan:

    Brother.. it seems you have decided to give a deaf ear and blind eyes to watever is being presented on these blogs and audios and videos.. i find it useless to get into further debate with u.. because your answers to my and Abu Muhammad’s messagees are evident that your sole purpose is to keep talking and keep engaging people without logic…
    May Allah bless you for posting Quranic verses and also May Allah give you wisdom to understand the meaning of those verses.
    Wassalam..
    “Allah has set a seal on their hearts and their ears, and over their eyes is a covering; and for them is a great punishment.”__Al-Quran(2:8)

  40. Abdul Rehman says:

    I am not a very big fan of Zaid Hamid and had hardly listened to him but I have just the following to say….

    @Abu Muhammad & Muhammad Avais….
    If you have proof of it then you should go to court and file a case against him….

    @KKhan and Muhammad Avais….
    Using Quranic verses to actually cast blame on the other person is not right….

    Just an advise to everyone don’t be hard bound in your thinking. Keep your minds open… Instead of finding counter arguments try to listen and understand the other person’s point of view as well….

    Before calling anyone a Kafir think again…. This is the biggest dilemma of our nation that we have the biggest number of sects here and everyone calls everyone else a kafir…. and even sometimes forbid the other sect to even enter their mosques…. (I have seen cases of people being beaten in mosque because they weren’t of the same sect)…. So if you think someone is preaching something which is wrong then question him and discuss with him you might be wrong yourself…. don’t question with a mind that you are for sure right…. Even its not allowed in Islam to throw someones name into disrepute without having a proof…. and if you make an allegation on someone of this magnitude and its proven to be wrong then you are liable to the punishment according to the same allegation….

    These are just my views which can be wrong but I will ask you to at least think about these things for every such case….

    May Allah guide us all…..

  41. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Abdul Rehman

    If your not a big fan of Zaid Hamid, then please don’t waste your time in defending him here. If the impediments of Takfeer, are not not known to you, then learn them from some authenticated scholars, rather than teaching us NOT TO DO IT.

    We don’t want to be open-minded (accursed) to think that the Impostor – Yousaf Kazzab – is a good Muslim and Sufi Saint. Thank you very much.

    You’ve to think about yourself now, that whether you’d like to be in the camp of impostor – Yousaf Kazzab and cult or in the camp of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu ‘alayhi wassallam) and his Ummah.

    May Allah (Azza wa Jall) grant us wisdom of His Deen – as he taught it to the Companions of Prophet (sallallahu ‘alayhi wassallam) .

  42. Kkhan says:

    @abdul rehman

    i agree with u completely.i myself said it already that we should give this issue some time and Inshallah truth shall reveal itself eventually.

    @Abu Muhammad

    sir i had asked u to point out statements/declarations in any of zaid hamid’s lectures/programs that u find contrary to Quran and Sunnah.u r so QUIET on this.

    but u make such a strong effort in insulting and getting back at anyone who shows a little flexibility or open-mindedness.be it me or adbul rehman sahib.

    i wonder which heaven awaits u in carrying on this crusade.my brother, FEAR ALLAH.and if u r that a great lover of our beloved Prophet (s.a.w) then remember during his time in Madina, he came to find out the names of so many hypocrites yet he never confronted anyone since they had declared faith by their word.so show flexibility and tolerance. and in time truth will come out.who was right and who was wrong, we’ll know one day.u really dont have to start a movement to make a curse on yousaf kazab and zaid hamid a part of kalma tayab.

  43. Kkhan says:

    @ Abdul Rehman

    sir i agree with u.i myself said it already tht we should give this issue mote time and eventually we’ll learn the truth.

    @Abu Muhammad

    i asked u to point out any statement/assertion by zaid hamid in any of his programs tht u find contrary to quran and sunnah.u r so QUIET on this issue.
    yet u make such a strong effort to insult and get back at anyone who shows some flexibility.be it me or abdul rehman sahib.i’ve shown my share of open-mindedness in listening to u and saying tht truth shall reveal itself in time.and we should let time decide this controversy.its time u show some tolerance too.
    during his time in madina our Holy Prophet(s.a.w) found out the name of so many hypocrites yet he didnt confront them directly because they had declared faith by their word.so follow the sunnah.if u can………show tolerence.
    u dont have to start a campaign or movement to make curse on yousaf kazab and zaid hamid a part of kalma tayab.bec the way u talk it seems as if the whole question your faith depends on cursing these two individuals.
    show patience. if i’m wrong about about zaid hamid, i’ll apologize to u.and if u r wrong then u could apologize to me and abdul rehman sahib.

    and now dont reply saying tht u cant be wrong.since a divine revelation has been made to u on this issue.and we all r ignorant fools roaming in an abyss of darkness.

  44. Kkhan says:

    it seems as if the whole question your faith depends on cursing these two individuals.
    show patience. if i’m wrong about about zaid hamid, i’ll apologize to u.and if u r wrong then u could apologize to me and abdul rehman sahib.

    and now dont reply saying tht u cant be wrong.since a divine revelation has been made to u on this issue.and we r all ignorant fools roaming in the abyss of darkness.

  45. Kkhan says:

    the way u talk it seems as if the whole question your faith depends on cursing these two individuals.
    show patience. if i’m wrong about about zaid hamid, i’ll apologize to u.and if u r wrong then u could apologize to me and abdul rehman sahib.

    and now dont reply saying tht u cant be wrong.since a divine revelation has been made to u on this issue.and we r all ignorant fools roaming in the abyss of darkness.

  46. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Kkhan

    If, Zaid Hamid, on his show of “Yaum-e-Takbir Special”, sits with Hijabless Hostesses, along with other boys/girls together, to teach them Islam, Islamic Shariah and Islamic Khilafah, then I can only laugh at Zaid Hamid, for he could not even teach Islam’s basic lessons as per Quran and Sunnah. Have we gone too blind in the love of Zaid Hamid – that we have forgot about what Islam basic principles are?

    At the same time, it is absurd for you to give any statement ( rather not required ) when you see from your eyes such unislamic behavior and then you’ve this great courtesty to tell me why I’m ‘quiet’ – if something apparent you can’t see, then I can’t help you. I don’t want to repeat myself over and over again, over same questions, by same individuals. Give other people a chance.

    Being hypocrite is totally different, than being a declared Khilafah of False Prophet – Yousuf Kazzab. Just like Musailmah Kazzab was fought with iron, without showing any sort of tolerence and flexibility, why do you think it should be different for Zaid Hamid? – Is it just because you happen to be the murshid of Zaid Hamid and can’t take out his blind following? Please don’t confuse the two concepts.

    Remember, “Trut is always bitter” – Time has come now, that we should start tasting bitter things for our own good. That is why, when someone will speak the truth, you’d label it with ‘insult’,’close-mindedness’ etc etc.

    At the time of Qadyanis – the would have said the same – that please don’t our Takfeer part of your Kalimah? If, that is not taken from him, then why would it be taken for Yousuf Kazzab, followed by his Khilafah – Zaid Hamid?

    I’m amazed at your absurd defend of Yousuf Kazzab and Zaid Hamid. Alla I can advise you is to worry about your faith.

  47. hesham syed says:

    Any one who has slightest sympathy with Yusuf belief / aqeedah and his likes does not care for the respect of Prophet ( saw ) and has made a decision by himself or herself to be out of the fold of Islam. Good luck to them.

  48. Abdul Rehman says:

    @Abu Muhammad….

    From being open minded I don’t meant that start accepting Blasphemy…. Just answer me one simple question….

    – Are you 100% sure and its on pure credible proof that Yusuf Kazzab comitted Blasphemy…. or is there a chance that he didn’t commit it even a 5% chance that he didn’t do it????

    I won’t file a charge of blasphemy against anyone untill i have 100% proof or that person committed blasphemy infront of me…. If you have 100% proof then thats what the common public is waiting for proof and not just plain Fatwas by those who even didn’t prosecute him or heard the other side of the story…. Because if you charge someone of blasphemy and he didn’t do it then you are as much liable to Blasphemy….

    I am not saying that I am 100% sure that he didn’t commit blasphemy but I am also not 100% sure that he did…. If he did then Allah will give him what he deserves in aakhrat….

    The only problem is that the people who are supporting Zaid Hamid don’t have 100% proof of Blasphemy being committed…. And they are not challenging Khatam-e-Nabuat and neither is Zaid Hamid challenging Khatam-e-Nabuat…. If you have 100% proof then we will like to have that and not just the argument that there has been Fatwa on him…. Because either you believe or not the image of mullahs is not so good here in Pakistan….

    And I am not defending Zaid Hamid I just don’t see him committing Blasphemy thats all… I hope you get my point….

  49. Kkhan says:

    @ Addul Rehamn

    very well-said indeed.

    @Abu Muhammad

    when we’ll actually implement a true islamic system in this country, then our media will also be set right.z.hamid would be silly to demand burqa-clad women and bearded men now when our whole country is in shambles be it our islamic values or political infrastructure.if we r a country like Iran,then we can put such a demand.and yes, i have observed tht though many so-called modern type of girls and guys can be seen in zaid hamid’s, there r also a lot of women wearing ubaya and men with beards present in his lectures. and by many i really do mean ‘many’.

    i myself am not a murshid of anyone……..however i do believe in solid facts before putting an allegation.maulana adbul sittar niazi who was a champion of khatam-e-nubuwat and had launched a full-fledged movement against ahmedis, defended yousaf kazab.i’m not calling yousaf kazab a good man.but since he is dead, there is no way to get his statement on this.for me its an ambiguous case.so i refrain from making any one decision. and believe in waiting a little longer for truth to unfold itself.by now i think i’ve said this for the 100th time.

    and thank u for your advice regarding my faith.i also pray for u

  50. Abu Muhammad says:

    @ Abdul Rehman

    If your not 100% sure for anything, then why don’t you be quiet and accept the verdict of 100% Blasphemy as per court ruling, rather than make it an issue to defend Yousuf Kazzab and then in return Zaid Hamid?

    What we could do, to provide it, we’ve done, now you go to the court and meet the witnesses who gave statements against them (Have you bothered reading them here?) and one ofcourse.

    Please, don’t speak on behalf of Zaid Hamid secretary – telling us that Zaid Hamid not challenging Khatm-e-Nabuwwat. You only end up exposing yourself here. Come out of your blind following of Zaid Hamid and see with open eyes what Zaid Hamid did while releasing that video by calling all those credible scholars as Fasadi, Takfiri etc and now even went on to show his real face by committing the bloodshed of Maulana Saeed Ahmed Jalapuri.

    We have already answer many questions and their answers. Read our blog. Don’t ask repeated questions, as now they’ll not be answered. We are not making arguments in loop here. Everything has been made clear. If you don’t understand something, seek a clarification.

    And the message from Hesham Syed is very clear in this regard.

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